Ron Paul Revolution: The Dollar Crisis

“Since Ron Paul has raised the issue of the gold standard, and is being treated like some kind of visitor from Mars for having mentioned the subject at all, we need to know more about the true American heritage of the gold standard. This is why I’m personally very fired up that the Mises Institute has brought back William Gouge’s Short History of Money and Banking, which I first read while working for Ron in his congressional office.

Gouge lived from 1796 through 1863 and was involved in all the great debates on banking in the 19th century. His book is a major attack on all inflationary finance, and reading him underscores just how universal are the lessons on money and banking — universal in the sense that they apply in all times and all places.

Back in the 19th century, there were many people who wanted inflation: bankers, debtors, and the government. What a surprise! Who has an interest in sound money? Consumers, savers, and liberty-loving citizens. This is the essential conflict. Are we going to have a monetary regime rooted in robbery, or one rooted in honesty? Gouge was on the side of honesty, and he inspires us today.

Coming a few decades later, but along the same lines, is Charles Holt Carroll’s Organization of Debt Into Currency. This is one of those books that develops a hard-core cadre of fans. When we started reprinting these great American economic classics, people began to ask us: what about Carroll? Well, here it is, and once you get into the book, you realize why Rothbard and George Reisman and so many others swear by it. He patiently explains the difference between money and debt and how the government goes about sowing confusion about what is what.

Now, Ron Paul stands in this tradition of thinkers in every way. Even on the campaign stump, he speaks about the evil of fiat money and Fed management of the nation’s money stock. In a true sense, he says, we’ve put a cartelized gang of central planners in charge of the good that constitutes half of every economic exchange, and we are paying the price in terms of declining purchasing power, exchange-rate chaos, rampant debt, and growing crises in sector after sector.

Is there a way out? Most certainly! It goes by the name of gold. Make the dollar as good as gold and you eliminate the inflation problem and the business cycles that go along with it. Here is the great secret of the gold standard. The problem is not that it is unviable from the perspective of economics; the problem is that there are many people allied against it: the big banks, the creditor class, and government. You see, gold would provide a hard-core anchor for liberty. Under the right form of the gold standard, government could no longer spend with impunity or run up debt without limit. The resources it spent would have to be raised the old-fashioned way.

It behooves every American to read Ron’s book, really his manifesto on the topic. It is called The Case for Gold. He covers 19th-century monetary history and discusses several plans for instituting a gold standard.”

Lew Rockwell on the dollar crisis at Mises.org

Ron Paul Revolution: bank-bungle or bank-boozle?

“According to data compiled by the World Gold Council, the Swiss sales peaked in 2002, 2003 and 2004, when they sold around 280 tonnes each year.

Based on the average market prices in those years, the Swiss probably raised about $14 billion from the sales.

The value of that bullion, as of Friday? Try $34 billion — or $20 billion more.

Those missed profits work out at about $2,700 for every man, woman and child in Switzerland.

The Swiss weren’t alone. The Bank of England chose 1999-2001 to halve its total gold holdings. It sold 395 tonnes at an average price of around $275.

Oops. Two hundred years ago, the British might have hanged the man responsible for a blunder of this scale. At the very least they would have shipped him off to Australia in leg irons. He ended up costing Her Majesty’s Treasury $6.9 billion in lost profits (based on Friday’s price).

Today? They make him prime minister. Most Americans know little about Gordon Brown, the dour Scot who recently took over as PM from Tony Blair. But for 10 years, until this spring, he served as Blair’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, Britain’s chief finance minister. And among his landmark moves was this decision to auction off the nation’s gold….”

Comment:

That sale was made against professional advice from the Bank of England.

Ditto for Holland and Spain.

More on this apparent wave of stupidity in high places in the UK, Holland, Spain, and Switzerland by Brett Arends at The Street.com.

And there’s a hint of where the idea for the sale originated here:

“The World Gold Council, a lobbying group for the industry, said this week that the drop in prices over the past two months would reduce the gold export earnings of the world’s heavily indebted countries by more than dollars 150 million a year, or more than the debt relief that the IMF gold sales would finance.

“Selling IMF gold reserves will do more harm than good,” said Gary Mead, head of research for the council.

But it has taken several years for the major industrial nations to agree on gold sales, and officials made clear they did not intend to abandon the plan. Lawrence Summers, the U.S. deputy Treasury secretary, told Congress on Thursday that the Treasury Department would work to ensure that the IMF sale would not have a “meaningful impact on gold prices.”

The planned sales by Britain, Switzerland and the IMF total the equivalent of about six months of global demand for gold….” (Central Bank Sales Could Finish the Decline that Low Inflation Started, International Herald Tribune, June 19, 1999).
Some legwork about the stupid officials seems in order, to be filed under, Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave…

1. Gordon Brown, now UK PM, was for over ten years (the longest tenure of a chancellor) Chancellor of the Exchequer. One of his first acts was to make the Bank of England operationally independent when it came to monetary policy (i.e. setting of interest rates).

Between 1999 and 2002, while Chancellor, Brown sold 60% of the UK’s gold reserves at $275 an ounce. a 20-year low. He pressured the IMF to do the same, but it resisted.

Gavyn Davies, former UK partner of Goldman Sachs (who now heads up the BBC) is a close friend of Brown’s. Davies’ wife, Susan Nye, was office manager to Brown when he was Chancellor.
You’d think savvy Gavy would give better advice to his pals, eh?

2. The activist group, GATA, has for long argued that the big banks had their heads together with the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the International Monetary Fiund (IMF) and various central banks to keep the price of gold artificially low to diguise inflation and the real weakness of the US dollar. GATA has even filed suit over this charge.

(see my articles on IMF gold manipulation and Goldman Sachs).

And more history:

“For instance, there were a few key words uttered by former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan when he appeared before Congress in July of 1998. Greenspan was testifying as to why the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) should not concern itself with regulation of derivatives traded in the over-the-counter market……..

Greenspan waved off the necessity for the CFTC to regulate gold derivatives, telling Congress to fear not, that the “central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise.”

Oops. Bet he wishes he hadn’t let that slip. As Chris points out, “Greenspan was telling Congress that the purpose of gold leasing was not what the central banks had been telling the world—to earn a little money on a dead asset. The real purpose of gold leasing was to suppress the gold price. His remarks are still posted on the Federal Reserve’s Internet site.” [they are—we checked]

Other confirmations of the central bank price rigging scheme include a rather blatant admission from William R. White, head of the Monetary and Economic Department of the BIS. In late June of 2005, White delivered the opening remarks to the Fourth Annual BIS Conference on the “Past and Future of Central Bank Cooperation,” an elite gathering of “central bankers and academics.” Among the latter were “economists and economic historians,” as well as, for the first time, “political scientists interested in political and other processes, and the development of institutions to support such processes.”

White’s speech enumerated five “intermediate objectives of central bank cooperation.” The fifth, and last, of these was “the provision of international credits and joint efforts to influence asset prices (especially gold and foreign exchange) in circumstances where this might be thought useful.” [emphasis added]

Useful to whom? Well, probably not to the average investor.

Then there is the Washington Agreement—signed in September of 1999 by representatives of the ECB and the central banks of Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and England—which spelled out how the banks would cooperate in the regulation of the gold market. (The U.S., while not a signatory, hosted the announcement of the agreement, and may be assumed to be supportive of it, if not a direct participant.) It placed a limit on how much they could collectively sell in any given year.

The alleged reason for the Washington Agreement was to control the amount of gold being sold by central banks, in order to keep the price high and protect the value of those banks’ holdings……

Chris sees the agreement as a smokescreen, a way of deceiving all but the insiders as to what’s actually going on. It allows the central banks to say that they’re taking the initiative to limit gold sales, which is true of physical gold. But while they do that with one hand, with the other they ramp up the action in the derivatives markets—forward sales, options, swaps and shorts—thereby maintaining the artificially low price of gold.

That argument is bolstered by BIS statistics showing that gold derivative transactions ballooned from $234 to $354 billion, an all-time high, in the first six months of 2006. Conversely, though, it has been a very uneven progression. For all of 2005, derivatives activity actually fell. So a firm conclusion is difficult to draw……

“By the bullion banks shorting gold,” Chris says, “they deceived the world about the level of inflation and money supply growth, and basically they shorted gold to buy U.S. government bonds and collect the difference. If you’ve been assured that the gold price is going down, you short the metal and use the proceeds to buy government bonds. You’re getting 5% on government bonds and the gold price is going down 5% a year, enabling you to close the short profitably, so you have a risk-free trade. You’re getting 10%, as long as the central banks are willing to back you with more gold sales to keep the gold price going down. And I think everybody was happy with that. Financial houses, recruited as the banks’ agents, were happy with their easy profits. The Treasury Department was happy because it boosted bond prices and kept interest rates down. And the whole world was deceived about the vast growth that was going on in the money supply. It worked for a while. Until they started worrying that they were running out of gold reserves.”

…………………

Thinking about all this, it seems to us that the Treasury Department, the Fed, and the European central banks were engaging in some mighty risky behavior. Chris agrees and says that, in fact, the house of cards almost came tumbling down when gold spiked in late 1999, in the aftermath of the Washington Agreement, and created a short squeeze…..

Since then, of course, steadily rising demand has driven the gold price ever higher. Ongoing market rigging has been unable to suppress it, but has served to prevent the metal from finding its true equilibrium point, in Chris’ opinion. He believes that a day of reckoning will come. And what will that look like?

“Well, I don’t want to make any hard predictions about what will happen, or when,” he says. “But what I think is that we’re going to wake up someday and find out that the Western central banks have met—along with, maybe, some of the Asian central banks—and there are going to be new currency arrangements. Maybe in the name of helping the poor countries, the central banks are going to be buying gold at $1,500 an ounce or something like that. It’ll probably happen overnight, because I don’t think the central banks can withstand a steady escape from the paper currencies into the monetary metals. If they do it overnight, everybody’s locked into the fiat system, there’s no getting out. Either you’ve got your gold and silver or you don’t, and there’s no incentive to get out of the whole central bank system.”

That sounded to us like a sudden and massive devaluation of the buck.”

Doug Casey, on the gold price fixing conspiracy.

Ron Paul’s Financial Foes: How the Big Banks Bought the Government

Evidence from a crime scene:

Item One:
“In the spring of 1987, the Federal Reserve Board votes 3-2 in favor of easing regulations under Glass-Steagall Act, overriding the opposition of Chairman Paul Volcker. The vote comes after the Fed Board hears proposals from Citicorp, J.P. Morgan and Bankers Trust advocating the loosening of Glass-Steagall restrictions to allow banks to handle several underwriting businesses, including commercial paper, municipal revenue bonds, and mortgage-backed securities. ”

Item Two:

In August 1987, Alan Greenspan — formerly a director of J.P. Morgan and a proponent of banking deregulation — becomes chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. One reason Greenspan favors greater deregulation is to help U.S. banks compete with big foreign institutions.

Item Three:

In December 1996, with the support of Chairman Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve Board issues a precedent-shattering decision permitting bank holding companies to own investment bank affiliates with up to 25 percent of their business in securities underwriting (up from 10 percent).

On April 6, 1998, Weill and Reed announce a $70 billion stock swap merging Travelers (which owned the investment house Salomon Smith Barney) and Citicorp (the parent of Citibank), to create Citigroup Inc., the world’s largest financial services company, in what was the biggest corporate merger in history.

The transaction would have to work around regulations in the Glass-Steagall and Bank Holding Company acts governing the industry, which were implemented precisely to prevent this type of company: a combination of insurance underwriting, securities underwriting, and commercial banking.

Item Four:

“After 12 attempts in 25 years, Congress finally repeals Glass-Steagall, rewarding financial companies for more than 20 years and $300 million worth of lobbying efforts. Supporters hail the change as the long-overdue demise of a Depression-era relic.

On Oct. 21, with the House-Senate conference committee deadlocked after marathon negotiations, the main sticking point is partisan bickering over the bill’s effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, which sets rules for lending to poor communities. Sandy Weill calls President Clinton in the evening to try to break the deadlock after Senator Phil Gramm, chairman of the Banking Committee, warned Citigroup lobbyist Roger Levy that Weill has to get White House moving on the bill or he would shut down the House-Senate conference. Serious negotiations resume, and a deal is announced at 2:45 a.m. on Oct. 22. Whether Weill made any difference in precipitating a deal is unclear.

On Oct. 22, Weill and John Reed issue a statement congratulating Congress and President Clinton, including 19 administration officials and lawmakers by name. The House and Senate approve a final version of the bill on Nov. 4, and Clinton signs it into law later that month.

Just days after the administration (including the Treasury Department) agrees to support the repeal, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, the former co-chairman of a major Wall Street investment bank, Goldman Sachs, raises eyebrows by accepting a top job at Citigroup as Weill’s chief lieutenant. The previous year, Weill had called Secretary Rubin to give him advance notice of the upcoming merger announcement. When Weill told Rubin he had some important news, the secretary reportedly quipped, “You’re buying the government”

From s PBS Frontline article on the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999.

Torture Files: torturing the truth

“Consider the testimony before Congress Thursday of Malcolm Wrightson Nance, a counter terrorism expert who taught at the Navy’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) school. He went through the waterboarding procedure to evaluate for himself if it was torture.

In my case, the technique was so fast and professional that I didn’t know what was happening until the water entered my nose and throat, It then pushes down into the trachea and starts the process of respiratory degradation. It is an overwhelming experience that induces horror and triggers frantic survival instincts. As the event unfolded, I was fully conscious of what was happening: I was being tortured.

Yes, he was being tortured. No if ands or buts. Torture. What part of that procedure is so hard for new Attorney General Michael Mukasey to understand?

In previous wars, the United States condemned torture. Now we not only endorse it but export it, sending prisoners overseas so other countries can extract misinformation through pain and suffering.

And what does this get us? False information that is used to launch illegal wars against other nations. Recent reports confirm that an al-Qaida operative was tortured to the point where he told us what we wanted to hear about Iraq, not was actually true.

When torture doesn’t work, we simply allow ourselves to be conned. CBS recently outed “Curveball,” the so-called “top scientist” from Iraq who fed us false information about mobile chemical weapons labs in Iraq. Turns out he was a low-level worker with an active imagination.

America on the world stage is viewed as both a bully and a bumbling joke that can’t do anything right. We ignore the United Nations, violate international law and turn Iraq into the safe-haven for terrorism that we falsely claimed was there before we launched an illegal invasion….”

More by Doug Thompson in “Where, and when, did we go wrong?”at Capitol Hill Blue.

Owen Barfield on perception and imagination

“Mere perception—perception without imagination—is the sword thrust between spirit and matter.” It was what enabled Descartes to divide the world into thinking substance and extended substance. But something more than mere perception occurs when we look at or listen to a fellow being: whatever our philosophical predispositions, we in fact read his body and voice as expressing something immaterial. We can, moreover, attend to nature in the same way, although such a reading of nature has been progressively eliminated from our habits during the past few hundred years. Strengthening the activity of imagination is the only way to heal the Cartesian sword-thrust. (“Matter, Imagination, and Spirit,” in Owen Barfield, The Rediscovery of Meaning and Other Essays)

Max Stirner on insurrection instead of revolution…

“He has his thoughts ‘from above’ and gets no further” (Ego, 44). Those who submit themselves to being possessed by these ideals and intentions rather than possessing them in their own subjectivity are rightly called “unselfish” or, as Stirner would also have it, “possessed.” As he notes: “Is it perchance only people possessed by the devil that meet us, or do we as often come upon people possessed in the contrary way—possessed by ‘the good,’ by virtue, morality, the law, or some ‘principle’ or other? Possessions of the devil are not the only ones. God works on us, and the devil does; the former ‘workings of grace,’ the latter ‘workings of the devil.’ Possessed [bessessene] people are set [versessen] in their opinions” (Ego, 45). In short, thoughts, ideals, are to Stirner alienable property: “The thought is my own only when I have no misgivings about bringing it in danger of death every moment, when I do not have to fear its loss as a loss for me” (Ego, 342)

The revolution aimed at new arrangements; insurrection leads us no longer to let ourselves be arranged, but to arrange ourselves, and sets no glittering hopes on ‘institutions’. It is not a fight against the established […] it is only a working forth of me out of the established. […] Now, as my object is not an overthrow of the established order but my elevation above it, my purpose and deed are not political or social but (as directed toward myself and my ownness alone) an egoistic purpose indeed. ….” (280)
Max Stirner, The Ego and Its Own

Ron Paul Revolution: Moolah from “Zionist” fascists-in progress OK, moolah from White fascists-in-waiting NOT OK

“Frankly, this is a no-brainer. Any other candidate would unequivocally reject that money as soon as its donor’s identity was known. That Paul’s campaign needs time to think about it is shocking.

Also of concern is the fact that Paul’s campaign has ignored my repeated attempts to interview the Congressman for JTA, the Jewish newswire service by which I am employed. I had intended to write a story about the Congressman, and to provide him with the opportunity to distance himself from his extremist supporters, to clarify his position on Israel, and to state his case to the Jewish community. Yet, after three weeks of repeated telephone calls, two chats with his Deputy Communications Director, and several left voicemail messages, I have yet to receive a callback to schedule an interview.

Which leads me to conclude the following about the Congressman from Texas: Ron Paul will take money from Nazis. But he won’t take telephone calls from Jews.

This should be a cause of great concern to those of us in the antifascist community, whereas, for me, it elicits echoes of Europe’s re-embracement of right-wing extremism, the attendant resurrection of ethnic nationalism, and the growing success of far-right parties, many of which have taken over large swaths of European parliaments.

They say such things could never happen in America, but guess what…Here it is.

The sad part is that, as a radical libertarian, I somewhat favored Paul as a candidate, though as a libertarian socialist, he is not my ideal choice. Now, I want him out of the running, and frankly, out of the Capitol. Those who pander to White Nationalists and neo-Nazis have no place serving in the United States government, which exists to serve the most ethnically and culturally diverse nation on Earth, which counts among its citizens Jews and Zionists alike.”

Comment:

Isn’t this a gem of tar-by-association and double-speak..

And, by the way, left libertarianism I understand, but what is a libertarian socialist? Ain’t no such beast….

More at Jewcy.com by Daniel Sieradski in “Ron Paul’s Jewish Problem.”

This, mind you, from the same pro-war crowd that was only too happy to get into office by canoodling with Christian evangelists (including, the no-doubt deeply philosemitic Pat Robertson) of the Darby Bible end-times variant, whose central thesis is the eventual disappearance of the Jews as a group….

But anti-semitism, we know, is sometimes in the eye of the beholder.

Of course, the Paul campaign should give back money from suspect groups. No question. I wonder if the other candidates should give back the money given them by their own ethnic survivalists/racists?

I have the solution. Maybe the big hedge-funds supporting Guiliani and Clinton could throw a few dimes Ron’s way. Then maybe he could be as picky about which group of thieving financiers, high-minded war-mongers, and ethnically diverse corporate-state criminals he could accept wads of money from…

Or maybe, FOX could just give him a show every Friday.

Where’s the business community? Why won’t it wake up and do its duty? Why won’t it support the only candidate whose policies will actually foster business and peace here and abroad?

Then he won’t need to be talking to opportunistic racists (or alleged racists) of any stripe, white, black or brown; Christian or Jewish; Caucasian, Semitic, or Mongolian. And he won’t need to be “necklaced” with this smear-of-last-resort of American politics.

Update:

The author adds:

“If a person was campaigning for President on the “killing niggers and Jews” ticket, should they be allowed to run?

I think the answer ought to be a comfortable and firm “no.”

My comment:

A firm no to people (where are they?) running on a ticket of killing “niggers and Jews” [sic]. Meanwhile, a firm yes to people (all over the place in goverment and Wall Street and with their hands on nukes too) running on a ticket of killing Ay-rabs and rag-heads.

Update: 

Interesting that the Christian Zionist story of a “rapture” in which converts will be taken up into heaven directly by a reappearing Jesus is said by some to be the result of a Jesuit teaching originating in the Counter Reformation.

Until then, the visions of Revelation – especially of “the harlot” — were widely understood as referring to the Catholic church.  The Jesuit’s counter doctrine undermined this belief by interpreting Revelations as something that would take place in the future.

The Jesuit teaching was taken up strongly by one group of Protestants – the Plymuoth Brethren – and one of their most influential preachers, John Derby, and from there came to influence the whole ‘Pentecostal’ wing of Protestantism, including the Moody Institute and its widely distributed, Moody Bible.

And so we end up with Christian Zionism today, an end time teaching that is really only a few hundred years old at best.

Propaganda State: the war we don’t (want to) know…

In “Operation Homecoming,” one returning Marine, who takes to drinking heavily in an effort to cope with the crushing guilt and revulsion he feels over how many people he’s seen killed, fumes about how “you can’t talk to them [ordinary Americans] about the horror of a dead child’s lifeless mutilated body staring back at you from the void, knowing you took part in that end.” Writing of her return home, Kayla Williams notes that the things most people seemed interested in were “beyond my comprehension. Who cared about Jennifer Lopez? How was it that I was watching CNN one morning and there was a story about freaking ducklings being fished out of a damn sewer drain — while the story of soldiers getting killed in Iraq got relegated to this little banner across the bottom of the screen?” In “Generation Kill,” by the journalist Evan Wright, a Marine corporal confides his anguish and anger over all the killings he has seen: “I think it’s bullshit how these fucking civilians are dying! They’re worse off than the guys that are shooting at us. They don’t even have a chance. Do you think people at home are going to see this — all these women and children we’re killing? Fuck no. Back home they’re glorifying this motherfucker, I guarantee you.””Generation Kill” recounts Wright’s experiences traveling with a Marine platoon during the initial invasion. The platoon was at the very tip of the spear of the invasion force, and Wright got a uniquely close-up view of the fighting. In most U.S. news accounts, the invasion was portrayed as a relatively bloodless affair, with few American casualties and not many more civilian ones. Wright offers a starkly different tale. While expressing admiration for the Marines’ many acts of valor and displays of compassion, he marvels at the U.S. military’s ferocious fire-power and shudders at the startling number of civilians who fell victim to it. He writes of neighborhoods being leveled by mortar rounds, of villages being flattened by air strikes, of innocent men, women, and children being mowed down in free-fire zones. At first, Wright notes, the Marines found it easy, even exciting, to kill, but as the invasion progressed and the civilian toll mounted, many began to recoil, and some even broke down. “Do you realize the shit we’ve done here, the people we’ve killed?” one Marine agonizes. “Back home in the civilian world, if we did this, we would go to prison.”

More by Michael Massing in “We are the Thought Police,” at Salon.

Gao Xingjian on the writer’s solitude

Literature is not concerned with politics but is purely a matter of the individual. It is the gratification of the intellect together with an observation, a review of what has been experienced, reminiscences and feelings or the portrayal of a state of mind.”
“The so-called writer is nothing more than someone speaking or writing and whether he is listened to or read is for others to choose. The writer is not a hero acting on orders from the people nor is he worthy of worship as an idol, and certainly he is not a criminal or enemy of the people. He is at times victimised along with his writings simply because of other’s needs. When the authorities need to manufacture a few enemies to divert people’s attention, writers become sacrifices and worse still writers who have been duped actually think it is a great honour to be sacrificed.”

“In fact the relationship of the author and the reader is always one of spiritual communication and there is no need to meet or to socially interact, it is a communication simply through the work. Literature remains an indispensable form of human activity in which both the reader and the writer are engaged of their own volition. Hence, literature has no duty to the masses.”From Gao Xinjian’s Nobel Lecture in Literature in 2000.

Ron Paul Revolution: The Buggy That Pulls the Horse

“In an interview on Friday, Mr. Paul, 72, a retired physician and a grandfather, acknowledged that his Internet support had surprised even him. He said he did little online but read the news, especially from the Middle East.

“We always knew it was supposed to be important,” he said of the Internet. “My idea was you had to have someone who was a super expert, who knew how to find people. But they found us.”

As for the record one-day fund-raising, he said, “I had nothing to do with it,” adding that he had so far neglected to thank the people responsible. (James Sugra, 28, of Huntington Beach, Calif., acting on his own, posted an online video proposing one big day of fund-raising; Trevor Lyman, 37, of Miami Beach, then independently created a site, www.thisnovember5th.com, that featured the video.)

Mr. Paul estimated that the one-day haul had brought ”$10 million worth of free publicity.”

And where do Ron’s supporters come from? Left and right:

“Andrew Fox, 28, who described his day job as “sitting on a bench with a soldering iron” repairing cable TV boxes, agreed the other night to become the treasurer for the Albany group. “I’m really frightened with what’s going on in this country,” Mr. Fox said. “We have effectively lost our form of representative government. The war is the worst thing, but we also have a police state at home.”

While most meetup members said they were Republicans, David Weck, 54, a chiropractor from Schenectady, said he was a Democrat but that he believed in smaller government and that Mr. Paul was the only candidate who seemed committed to that.

“Never in a million years did I think I would be interested in a Republican candidate,” Mr. Weck said, “especially after this administration.”

Mr. Gould said the country was “in turmoil’ and that he began researching Mr. Paul after seeing him on “The Colbert Report,” the late-night political-satire show on Comedy Central.

“I started learning about our currency,” he said. “It’s scary. Those Federal Reserve notes we’re using like a loan off of a loan that’s physically impossible to ever repay. So our whole country will continuously be in massive debt.”

More here at the New York Times.