I’ve expressed my skepticism about some of Rand Paul’s positions, but as I hear the rhetoric from the establishment demonizing the Tea Party at every chance, I’ve come to the conclusion that Rand Paul might still be worth supporting. In support of that, I found this at Humble Libertarian:
“Ron’s success in the 2012 Presidential race is DIRECTLY tied to Rand’s success in 31 days.
WHY?
Think it through.
Allow me to elaborate the possible scenarios:
Scenario 1- Rand loses. The media, liberals, Democrats, and even Republican establishment will declare that the liberty movement and tea parties are not viable and have no chance of electoral success. Rand is seen as the leader and if he fails then the symbolic victory of the statists will be crushing to any hope for 2012. If this happens then Ron might not even run in 2012 because it would be somewhat pointless for him to do so. Morale will be in the gutter, donors will turn cold, and enthusiasm will be largely nonexistent; not to mention the lack of momentum.
Scenario 2- Rand wins barely. Although victory is victory, a small margin of victory will then give the commentators and media an edge to fight against us in 2012. They will say that we just barely won, and that it was a fluke, or we just got lucky, or whatever. It’ll still be an uphill battle in the fight for legitimacy and credibility. This also will not bode well for Rand when he has to fight for his seat again next time around in perhaps a less friendly political atmosphere.
Scenario 3- Rand wins in a large victory (Randslide). A mandate by the People will be undeniable and cannot be countered. This paves the way that our ideas are now mainstream, acceptable, and that Ron stands a good chance of winning in 2012. Think of it as leap frog. Rand run’s on Ron’s shoulders and wins. Then Ron runs on Rand’s shoulders and wins. We will be unstoppable and perceived as unbeatable because momentum will be on our side.
There you have it — those are the possible outcomes as I see it. If you are cold on Rand, realize you are hurting Ron’s chance in 2012. A large victory for Rand paves the way and is even necessary for Ron’s electoral success in 2012. Anything less makes it highly unlikely. The campaign needs money, it needs volunteers, it needs people on the ground. It needs door knockers, phone bankers, sign placers, etc. Will you come to KY in the final weeks of the campaign and help out? The realization that when you are campaigning for Rand you are also simultaneously campaigning for Ron to be President is critical.”
My Comment
First. I don’t think libertarians should be pouring money into anything..Their first job is to look after themselves and their families. Ron and Rand Paul have received a lot of money already.
They need volunteers and support more than money. Besides, there are plenty of wealthy businessmen and gold dealers in the hard money community who can and should support them financially.
[I say this because some libertarian activists have expressed anxiety about what’s actually been done with the money they’ve given. That’s always a problem for all politicians, of course. I just mention it here, because I’ve heard concern expressed by a couple of activists.]
Two. I think the answer isn’t political – it’s education. And criticism/analysis of propaganda.
The best contribution libertarians can make is to refuse to demonize the Tea Party or ANY candidate being bashed by the establishment. That will allow the candidates’ voices to be heard on their own merit.
Participating in the media circus is a problem in itself. Ignore it. Refuse to listen. Refuse to change the terms of your argument.
Three. I don’t think any libertarian should support only one person. Support anyone who is antiwar, first and foremost. War is the heart of the police-state. I would sooner support someone who was antiwar and pro-government than someone who reduced domestic spending, but wouldn’t touch the military budget, which I think might be where Rand Paul ends up….
But if he’s willing to do both – cut the military and domestic spending – then of course, I would support him.
Still, just because I don’t know what he’s going to do, I would NEVER make common cause AGAINST Rand Paul with the establishment liberal/left. That would be simply opportunistic.
I would only make alliances with principled people on the issue of war and the police-state.
Once the military budget is cut, we will be on a sounder footing to tackle other problems.
And when people aren’t deathly afraid of surviving (“Muslims are going to get us!”), they’ll be a lot more open to libertarian thinking too.
I know Rothbard moved to the left. But that was then. Things are very different now. Libertarians must keep to the right and try to convince neo-conservatives and the Christian right to stop selling out their core values to socialist ones.
We don’t have to concede ANYTHING to the liberal establishment.
The only thing we want from them is a groveling apology for their Stalinist behavior.
I like the general thread of this argument, but have a few (hopefully minor) objections.
The main one being: I think, if Ron chooses to run, he will get huge support, regardless of the outcome of Rand’s race.
Which would be a strong argument for supporting or not supporting Rand on his own merits and positions alone.
But I would be most interested to hear what other readers think about the merits of this *Humble Libertarian* case.
And I would be especially interested in mb4’s analysis of it.
Well,
Since I’m mb4, here are my thoughts.
First.
I don’t think libertarians should be pouring money into anything..Their first job is to look after themselves and their family.
Ron and Rand Paul have received a lot of money already.
They need volunteers and support more than money.
Besides, there are plenty of wealthy people in the hard money community who can and should support them financially.
I say this because some libertarian activists have expressed some anxiety about what has actually been done with the money (That’s always a problem for all politicians).
Two. I think the answer isn’t political – it’s education, and analysis of propaganda.
The best contribution you can make is to refuse to demonize the Tea Party or ANY candidate demonized by the establishment. That will allow the candidates’ voices to be heard on their own merits. Participating in the media circus is a problem in itself. Ignore it. Refuse to listen or change your terms of argument.
Three. I don’t think any libertarian should support only one person. Support anyone who is antiwar, first and foremost. That is the essence. I would sooner support someone who was antiwar and pro-government than someone who reduces domestic spending but won’t touch the military budget, which I think Rand Paul might end up being….But if he is willing to do both, then of course, I would support him.
Anyway, just because I don’t know, I would NEVER make common cause against Rand Paul with the establishment liberal/left, which is simply opportunistic . I would only ally with principled people.
Once the military budget is cut, there will be money to tackle other problems. And when people aren’t deathly afraid of surviving, they will be more open to libertarian thinking too.
I know Rothbard moved to the left. But that was then. Things are very different now. Libertarians must keep to the right and try to convince neocons and the Christian right to stop selling out their core values to socialist one. We don’t have to concede anything to the left, unless they move toward us.
Lila, thank you for fleshing out the missing discussion that screamed at me from the *Humble Libertarian* piece urging support of Rand in order to support Ron. Your reply struck me as correct in every respect, and very useful for me simply because you are closer to most aspects of the whole scene than I am.
You are spot on in emphasizing, above all else, the importance of stopping the vast slaughter being done in the name of the US public and US police state. Indeed, all other considerations are secondary to that one. Whatever truth there may be in “war is the health of the State” does reveal a lot about the full nature of the State itself in all its doings.