Alexander Solzhenitsyn:

“You must understand that the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians.

They hated Russians. They hated Christians.

Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse.

More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their blood stained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be overstated.

Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time.

The fact that most of the world is ignorant or uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of its perpetrators.”

Other sources:

“Soviets admit Stalin killed 50 million,” The Sunday Times, London, April 17, 1988.

61.9 million people were killed by the Soviet communists from 1917 to 1987, writes R. J. Rummel, “Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917″ (Transaction, 1990).

Knickerless schticks – also known as bare-a**ed lies – are all over the Internet.

One such cess-pool of Zionist disinformation, posing as the living waters of Christian truth-telling is the subject/target of the following revealing comments at a site called  the Phora, of which I know nothing except that on this occasion at least they’ve struck a home-run of epic proportions.

Be warned, the sentiments and language below are frank and non-PC and I do not subscribe to all of them.

I do not consider Jews as a people  or culture “demonic,” only excessively tribal and brain-washed (a historical contingency, I suppose);

I dislike the use of the word “n**” (first time I’ve heard it, but I can guess its meaning), although I agree with the larger argument being made;

and I think “whites”  are certainly biologically viable….as long they part from the (white) Jewish ruling class’s party line and start treating non-whites as fellow-sufferers from the malady of oligarchy-gone-mad rather than untermenschen in a melanin-free gulag ruled by a consortium of corporations, regional governments, and private police.

TAC refers to The American Conservative, a paleo-conservative magazine.

07-19-2006, 12:56 PM

The article Fade posted, by n**-hatin’ uber Zionist Nicholas Stix, is in actuality little more than a jig of glee danced by someone for whom Priority One is hands off Israel.

The irony is that this was TAC’s modus operandi. By never wishing to blow what it saw as its opportunity to shape policy from the inside, TAC took great pains to phrase its criticism of Israel as criticism of Israel, and in the gentlest and most reasonable of language…….

…The run of the magazine amounted to a few years’ worth of mild chiding of people already firmly in control of government – people who never considered the magazine’s staff to be any better than Holocaust-denying white trash to begin with.Taki and Buchanan’s only hope would’ve been to step up their harshness exponentially….but they didn’t want to risk the hollers of anti-Semite! and Nazi! that waking up America would have certainly entailed. Too bad. 

Of course, to Stix and those of his genre, any criticism at all was tantamount to little more than “Die Juden, er, Neocons, sind unser Unglueck!”….although interestingly enough, anything short of printing boat tickets back to Africa was equivalent to TAC caving in on race without even putting up a fight.

That’s Zionist “realism” for you:

TAC failed because it was a national-affairs magazine that dealt with the ever-widening Middle East firestorm threatening to explode into WW3, instead of dealing sensibly with the issue of Leroy, his violent demeanor, and the need for a free society to sterilize him.

Buchanan has a scathing new article up about Israel.

Yes, of course he does!….now, a day late and dollar short, with his magazine deader than vaudeville and the foreign-policy dominoes already falling one after the other!

 

WFHermans

07-19-2006, 02:20 PM

Pat’s latest article:Armistice in the Culture War?
By Patrick J. Buchanan

States’ rights show the way

Has anyone bothered with a direct correspondence with this man? Shall we passively sit around waiting for him to “get racial”? Fade?

wintermute

07-19-2006, 03:41 PM

QUOTE: Of course, to Stix and those of his genre, any criticism at all was tantamount to little more than “Die Juden, er, Neocons, sindunser Unglueck!”….although interestingly enough, anything short of printing boat tickets back to Africa was equivalent to TAC caving in on race without even putting up a fight. END QUOTE

Mr. Stix (not his Christian name, I assume) should probably be seeking employment at American Renaissance, fomenting Race War between Whites, Blacks, and Mexicans while denying or distorting any information that links our Elder Brothers in Faith and the upcoming WWIII (their title, not mine).As for the ‘neocon’ business – what cowardice that was! Is Judith Miller, who ran the WMD stories on the front page of the NYT, a ‘neocon’? No. She’s not a liberal, either, though she poses as one: the whole NYT ‘poses’ as a liberal publication. But when both parties: the Sulzbergers, Rosental, and Miller, were faced with the difficult journalistic decision – tell the truth or betray America to Jewish interests – they didn’t even blink.White House falsified documents don’t have any impression on world politics unless papers of record disseminate them to the world. The whole war on Iraq was NOT a “Neocon” thing – it was a Jewish thing, with Jews on both sides of the ideological line working together to bring the highest quality disinformation to the goyim.

Now it seems that the paper trail leads to Michael Ledeen. What makes me want to give up is, people will still insist that this has something to do with the fact that he is either a rightist, a leftist, a libertarian, an advocate for democracy, or some other mask in his traveling trunk. ……..

[Lila: This is an excessive generalization, but not entirely unwarranted by the facts, which demonstrate Jewish self-interest behind practically every position taken by major Jewish media figures.]

“Ledeen concocts it, The “White House” (Wolfowtiz, Perle, Frum, Feith) sells it to the President, the New York Times broadcasts it to the news, and Sulla (or those grown from the same vat, i.e. half our population) enters into a war frenzy, hysterically grasping the latest set of Jewish lies and heaping volcanic scorn on any who would dare question.

…Whites: probably not biologically viable.”

Fortunately,  I found this Bloomberg piece by Matt Levine on the sheer nuttiness of the prosecution’s case against Martoma, Boca Raton Mallu kuttan-turned Gordan Gekko wannabe-turned-Zio-fall-guy.

Mr. Levine’s eminently sensible piece makes me entertain the possibility that not all New York Jewish journalists are shameless, ethnocentric, goy-hating race supremacist water-carriers for their tribe’s financial criminals.

Oh, I forgot. There’s the admirable  Matthew Goldstein too, who did pursue the SAC case from the start.

 “The argument is that Martoma, a crafty computer villain who once changed the clock on his computer to send an e-mail, knew how to erase all traces of a different e-mail both from his own computer and also from the sender’s computer and from all servers and networks everywhere so that the FBI can’t find it no matter how hard they look. We know he can fool the FBI’s best and brightest because he once changed the clock on his dorm-room PC. You could only make this argument if you have no idea how computers work, or if, more likely, you’re relying on a judge who has no idea how computers work. Nuts.

The thing is, there are crooks in the financial industry. And, look, reading this evidence, I am persuaded that Mathew Martoma might be one of them. But it’s not a good look for our justice system to rely on a general sense of financial-industry crookedness to get convictions for actual instances of actual crimes. That sort of happens, though, with prosecutors and the SEC arguing that the individual defendant in front of them did whatever he did out of “Wall Street greed.”⁵ “Wall Street greed” strikes me as code for: “Don’t worry about the facts of this case. Don’t you feel in your heart that everyone who works in finance is probably a crook? Isn’t that enough to convict?”

The Harvard stuff is a little different, in that it gets at not a general sense of financial-industry crookedness, but a specific sense of Martoma’s own (alleged, past, relatively harmless) crookedness. But it’s still an effort by prosecutors to get an insider trading conviction, not by proving that Martoma got inside information — in fact, they’re admitting that they can’t prove it!⁶ — but by creating a general sense that he’s probably a crook so you might as well send him to jail. That’s not the way it’s supposed to work.”

What Levine misses is that even the alleged forging of the computer email is not a proven fact at all

It’s just Harvard’s say so.

[Correction: Apparently, Harvard’s server had a copy of the email dated earlier, so there is, allegedly, a basis for the claim of “some of the board members” (of Harvard) that Martoma backdated the computer email to make it look like he withdrew his clerkship applications before being found out.]

There’s no evidence that Martoma’s version of that story isn’t the right one too.

The concocted computer firm endorsement doesn’t necessarily mean he was lying about the email.

On the contrary……

Edward Manfredonia, a Wall Street whistle-blower, on drugs, murder, and the mafia on the Street.

What About U.S. Accomplices To The Drug Business?

When we talk about the Jamaican drug gangs we can’t act as if U.S. players are not involved in facilitating their drug trade. In the past, I personally forwarded information for the FBI, with no success, to investigate.

Brief background: In past columns, such as “Ex-Wall Street Trader’s Shadow Raises Questions In Canada,” which was published in The Black Star News on November 27, 2007, I detailed the money laundering activities of Robert VanCaneghan, a former member of the Board of the American Stock Exchange.

In “Why Ravitch Should Resign Before Paterson,” which was published on March 3, 2010 I detailed the sexual assaults on African-American women on Wall Street by Richard Monderine, an Amex supervisor, and similar attacks perpetrated by VanCaneghan. In other articles I have discussed involvement in drug smuggling and money laundering by Louis Miceli, a member of the Amex Board.

Throughout each of these articles loomed the constant presence of Arthur Levitt, former Chairman of the Amex and at that time Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Because investigations were not pursued, or were actually blocked during his reign, drug dealers, money launderers, and rapists at the American Stock Exchange were protected. Levitt wanted no scandal to touch the American Stock Exchange and willingly covered up every crime imaginable at the Amex.

Since the chair of the SEC was set the tone, likewise, the Federal Bureau of Investigation did not pursue an Amex member who laundered money for violent Jamaican Drug Lords. At the time Levitt did not pursue major brokerage firms, such as Spear Leeds and Kellogg, which was involved in laundering money from drug dealers. Spear Leeds also routinely assisted individuals in committing tax fraud by hiding their income. I obtained the information about these illegal activities from Joseph Roffler, a former managing director of Spear Leeds and Kellogg.

The Caribbean nation of Jamaica has been in the news as a result of violent upheavals involving drug gangs battling the Jamaican Police and Army. Over 70 Jamaicans have been killed. The ostensible cause of this battle was the impending extradition of Christopher “Dudus” Coke, whom the United States charged with smuggling cocaine and marijuana into New York and other cities along the Eastern Seaboard. The drug gang which he led is known as the Shower Posse–reputedly rivals were showered with bullets.

When I was still on Wall Street there was a member of the American Stock Exchange who admitted to and boasted about laundering drug money for Jamaican drug gangs; possibly The Shower Posse.

One of these gangs owned motorcycle rental shops and owned a financial services firm that invested in stocks. The Shower Posse has been linked to the murders of 1,400 African-Americans in the United States.

As I have stated in previous columns I was once wired by the FBI in 1993 to assist in an investigation of the involvement of the Italian Mafia stock fraud in a company known as PNF, which was introduced at the American Stock Exchange by Miceli and VanCaneghan.

These were two members of the Board of the Amex who were laundering drug money from the Cayman Islands via their Amex specialist firm Miceli-VanCaneghan. Miceli was also smuggling cocaine from the Bahamas aboard his private boat, The Jaded Lady. This money laundering was done via a subsidiary of Spear Leeds and Kellogg.

One day, June 3, 1994 precisely, Gene Weissman, an Amex member, and I were walking along West Broadway in Manhattan when we encountered Ken Silverman, an Amex member, whom we knew had encountered financial problems as a trader. Silverman cleared his trades through Spear Leeds and Kellogg. Silverman informed us that he was laundering money for Jamaican drug dealers who were smuggling marijuana into the United States. He had also met with Al Avasso, a front man for the Italian Mafia and had sought to invest in some of Avasso’s pump and dump stock frauds.

Silverman said that his Jamaican drug dealing friends had wanted him to invest the proceeds of their illicit activities into the United States. Silverman even boasted about his house in Negril, in Jamaica, which was situated on the water. He said he also dealt in motorcycles and motorcycle parts for his business partners in Jamaica. He said he also owned a motorcycle rental business in Negril.

On June 6, 1994 I wrote to an FBI special agent whom I had already worked with, Joseph Yastremski, and provided the information I had obtained from Silverman. Several months later I was stunned when Silverman informed me that he had been given a copy of the letter I had sent to Yastremski by Joel Lovett, Vice Chairman of the American Stock Exchange.

The question of how Lovett obtained a copy of what was supposed to be a confidential letter to the FBI is the topic of a future column.

On August 9, 1995 I wrote a letter, certified mail Z 184 431 950, to another FBI Special Agent, Michael Degnan which in part read: “On Monday, August 6, I met a former AMEX member who currently resides in Jamaica. This individual informed me that it is his belief that Silverman is involved in laundering money.”

As far as I could tell there was no action or investigation. Other sources provided information to me about Silverman. So on 7 April 1997 I wrote to the Legal Division of the FBI via certified letter, Z 424 567 292 informing them that I had previously supplied information to special agents, with no results. On 28 April 1997 I once again wrote to the FBI Legal Division via certified mail, P 399 558 454 with additional information.

In a letter to Representative John Dingell, then Chairman of the House Commerce Committee, dated October 17, 1997, certified mail Z 370 911 908, I wrote about my futile attempts to get the FBI to investigate the involvement of Wall Street players in the drug business and money laundering. “Such is the stupidity of the FBI,” I wrote, “permitting fronts for laundered money access to the United States because the Department of Justice wishes to protect the reputations of the American Stock Exchange..” I also wrote that the Justice Department wanted to protect Levitt’s reputation.

On October 26, 1997 I also wrote a letter, certified mail Z 037 468 718 to Senator William Roth about the lack of an investigation by the FBI into the crimes on Wall Street.

I never received a response to any letters. To my knowledge the FBI never investigated Silverman.

Fourteen hundred African-Americans murdered. Jamaicans murdered. We talk about Dudus and 70 Jamaicans died as authorities fought to apprehend him and send him here to trial.

Yet our own investigative authorities ignore those right here in the United States who help facilitate the crimes of the Jamaican drug lords. Does anyone really believe that there would not have been an investigation and that American accomplices –and the Jamaican gang members– would have been busted had the 1,400 dead been White victims?”

—— Ed Manfredonia was a former Wall Street trader who was later blacklisted when he became a whistleblower.

I am glad to see a measure of bi-polarity reenter the world, but I’m not an enthusiast of the Putin-as-Messiah theme being pushed, it seems, by some self-styled ultra-nationalist theorists like Alexander Dugin.

It is intended, I believe, to both mislead and misrepresent Christian traditionalists in Russia and the West who are sympathetic to Putin on Ukraine:

Alexander Dugin: Letter to the American People on Ukraine:

This is my idea and suggestion: let us hate the American political elite together. Let us fight them for our identities – you for the American, us for the Russian, but the enemy is in both cases the same – the global oligarchy who rules the word using you and smashing us. Let us revolt. Let us resist. Together. Russians and Americans. We are the people. We are not their puppets.”

The language of this is unmistakable to my mind: with its leftist rhetoric, it could come out of Occupy Wall Street (“the people” is a dead give-away).

When examined a bit more closely, Dugin appears to be neo-Sabbatean, i.e. a Kabbalist.

Shabbatai Zvi, from whom Sabbateanism takes its name, was an early modern Jewish mystic in the tradition of the medieval Kabbalism of Rabbi Isaac Luria (d. 1572), which is called Lurianic.

Denounced as a false prophet after his conversion to Islam, Zvi believed himself to be the Messiah during a time filled, like ours today, with end-time expectations.

This sense of impending doom, brought on by the collapse of Constantinople 1in 1453 to the Ottoman Turks, went along with expectations of world redemption, induced by the birth of humanism, the invention of the printing press, and the great voyages of discovery (or rather, rediscovery).

(“The Sabbatean Prophets,” Matt Goldish, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, 2004).

Dugin’s philosophy is thus Jewish exceptionalism posing as Russian nationalism.

He substitutes for  Orthodox traditionalism, rooted in pan-Slavism – the destiny of the Slavic people –  a mystic Judaized Eurasian geo-politics  apparently taken from Western theorists like Mackinder.

While spouting what are generally deemed “anti-Semitic” tropes, Dugin affirms repeatedly that the Jews are an exceptional people, unlike any other (surely a debatable point), and that both philo-Semitism and anti-Semitism imply as much, which is palpably untrue.

Excerpt from The Jews and Eurasia

“As a whole, such antisemitic version is unconvincing, though it is a little bit closer to truth than the first one, as against that it recognizes the uniqueness of the Jews’ role in the historical process. It is curious, that such admission joins the anti-semites to the most conscientious and consequent zionists.”

Notice that Dugin’s anti-Semitism goes hand-in-hand with militant Zionism and Israeli exceptionalism:

From The Fourth Political Theory:

The Evraziia movement is linked with two radical Zionist groups, Vladimir Boukharsky’s MAOF Analytical Group and Be’ad Artzeinu, controlled by Rabbi Avram Shmulevich. These two groups, situated to the right of the right-wing Israeli party Likhud, are led by two former Soviet citizens of Jewish origin who emigrated to Israel and are now committed to politicizing the Israeli Russians).

Notice that Dugin produces straw-man accounts of “anti-Semitic” theories.

Notice his meteoric rise to influence in the 1990s, after the end of the Soviet Union.

Notice that he is an economic leftist.

Note that he is an ideologue – again, a dead give-away that he is no conservative.

These and many other clues suggest that Dugin is simply posing as a man of the right to delude traditionalists, and that he is marrying traditionalism to occult and Nazi theories to tar it by association.

Dugin is a false-flag and the wall-to-wall hysteria over his ideas in the Western (Rothschild) press is the best proof of it.

Eurasianism ala Dugin works as an intellectually souped-up version of end-time eschatology, only with Putin as Messiah, instead of Anti-Christ.

Dugin sounds to me like an intelligence operative and Eurasian messianism a cover for the supra-nationalist blocs of the New World Order.

However, it isn’t yet clear to me how important (or not) Dugin is.

Recently dismissed from his post as head of Moscow University’s sociology department, he could also simply be a minor figure – in terms of influence on the Kremlin.

It’s possible that he’s being pumped-up in the West to discredit Putin, by association.

I’ll withhold judgement for now.

Meanwhile, on the economic interests at play in the West’s war on Putin, see below:

Anne Williamson at Lew Rockwell.com on the money interests behind the rhetoric against Putin:

Ever since the nation’s 1992 independence, Ukraine has been siphoning Russian gas for its own needs without paying for it. And throughout those 23 years, Russia not only bore Ukraine’s thievery in order to fulfill its European contracts, but continuously offered Ukraine low rates for gas so that the country might actually be in a position to pay its bills.

Exceptions occurred in 2006 and 2009 when Russia locked horns with Ukraine over billions in arrears to Gazprom and reduced the flow for a handful of days in January of those years, thus temporarily putting the chill on Europe. It was the hiatus of supply during these two disputes, which allowed the U.S. to mount an effective public clamor regarding E.U. vulnerability.

There was no mention of a deadbeat Ukraine’s thievery of gas meant for Europe as being the source of the problem. Instead, Russia was portrayed as a bully, demanding billions from a sadly impoverished Ukraine. Western media was far too polite to mention that Ukraine’s energy arrears were accumulating while their government officials grew fat and sleek by buying Russian gas cheap and selling it dear, pocketing the difference.

Nobody commented that it was actually U.S sanctions on Iran which prevented the subservient E.U. from pursuing contracts with a competing supplier of gas; except Vladimir Putin that is, who did observe dryly that an independent E.U. could organize an additional supplier. Some years later, during the U.S. assault on Libya, no E.U. voices of concern were raised regarding those particular energy contracts with European nations, just one of which was to deliver a 50-year supply to Switzerland.

Once the E.U. absorbed the geostrategic message the U.S. was sending, Brussels developed a legislative and regulatory attack on Russia’s Nord Stream pipeline and the proposed South Stream pipeline. Both pipelines’ routing was designed to avoid the Ukrainian problem.

The E.U. response to Russia’s pipeline resolution has been three measures: the 2006 Energy Community declaration, the 2020 Climate and Energy Package (CEP) and the Third Energy Package (TEP). The effect of those measures is to force all of Europe, nations both inside and outside of the E.U., into a single energy market subservient to EU policy, which is one of reverse economic blackmail against Russia.

A perverse consequence of the TEP, for instance, would be to permit the EU’s anti-monopoly initiatives against Gazprom to kill Russia’s hefty investment in the South Stream and Nord Stream projects and even theoretically allow the EU to expropriate Russian assets to non-Russian companies. (For a thorough discussion of the E.U. initiatives and their likely consequences, see here.)

Once Ukraine’s elected government was eliminated, the U.S. went right to work developing further its contribution to the scam.

Hunter Biden’s earlier March appointment to the board of Burisma Holdings Ltd, Ukraine’s largest natural gas producer, at first appeared to be a garden variety example of nepotism involving a US vice-president improperly arranging a no-work cash flow for his son. But, to the contrary, it turns out Hunter Biden has a full plate, insuring that the anticipated spoils of the US-led intrusion into Ukraine fall into the correct hands; big pairs of which will belong to the Biden family’s and the heist’s other multinational and congressional key players’ supporters.

In fact, Hunter Biden is an old Ukrainian hand. Prior to his appointment to Burisma’s board, Biden fils was a director of the U.S. State Department’s National Endowment for Democracy subsidiary National Democratic Institute, where he built up opposition parties first for the 2004 U.S.-engineered “Orange Revolution” and, later, the 2014 U.S.-engineered “Euromaidan” protests.

In the course of those ten years, Hunter Biden would have gotten to know steel and pipeline billionaire Victor Pinchuk, an enthusiastic supporter and financier of the Maidan protests earlier this year, who is also former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma’s son-in-law and is well-known for sponsoring an annual gabfest for international political and financial elite at a Tsarist-era palace on the Black Sea. Despite being a generous multimillion dollar donor to the Clinton Foundation, Pinchuk was smart enough to acquire allies on both sides of the aisle, developing a relationship with Senator Bob Corker (R-TN) when he was mayor of Nashville. Pinchuk then parlayed his Corker relationship into ones with various top shelf neocons, including Karl Rove and that ever present spitball of American imperialism, Senator John McCain.

This spring Corker rounded-up Senators McCain, Marco Rubio and Lamar Alexander and 23 others in support of Senate Bill 227, the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014. The bill is a veritable cornucopia of imperial dreaming, imposing as it does travel bans on and asset freezes of Russian officials, including Vladimir Putin and Sergei Medvedev, and corporate officers of prominent Russian banks and energy firms. It provides for a stepped-up program of broadcasting propaganda into countries of the former Soviet Union, including Russia, along with the transfer of U.S. intelligence to Ukraine.

The bill further targets Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldava for de facto if not de jure Nato membership with $100 million in lethal military equipment and assistance, which means Nato bases and joint military exercises. It increases funding for NGO fifth-column cover operations in targeted FSU countries and former “captive nations.” The bill also provides for a stop to nuclear arms reductions authorized by the 2010 New START treaty between the U.S. and Russia. And, of course, the bill bestows further gifts on the U.S. fracking and liquefied natural gas industries, the latter being a somewhat fanciful substitution for Russian energy in that decades of FedGov energy policies have insured that the U.S. has no liquid gas export terminals.”

At  The Fourth Political Theory, there’ s an interview with Boris Nad from the fascistic Eurasian neo-Right.

Interestingly, it reinforces Christian Zionist theories of Putin as the coming end-times despot:

BORIS NAD:

According to Christian belief, these are the “end times”, which precede the arrival of the Antichrist.

According to the Indian doctrine, we are living in the last in a series of regressive cycles, in Kali Yuga.

The only measure of it is money, tangible value. The man here is just an economic animal, who lives only for his own pleasure. Liberal ideology is based on the acceptance of a universal selfishness, and in fact is its only legitimate criterion. It is pragmatic and commercial. This is legalized corruption.

How does it stand up?

The Eurasian answer is ideocrasy: the state must be built from the top to bottom, with the primacy of the spiritual impulse.

Lila: This is pure fascism and echoes to the word the  ideology expressed openly by the so-called  “Vulcans” – the neo-conservatives, down to the imagery of the creative fire or spark of Jupiter. This is a variant of the philosophy I termed Promethean in LOE in 2005.

This is an apparent contradiction to the mercantile, pragmatic, and utilitarian.

It is a hierarchical rule of the spirit, as opposed to the order of trade;

empire, red or white, as opposed to the commercial, democratic republic, Sparta versus Athens , Rome versus Carthage, in a word – Continent versus the Sea.

We must drive out the merchants from the temple. Only spirit can oppose universal liberal corruption, and it is this principle that has to be built in the state.”

ROBERT SCHMADTKE:

“You use a bunch of “occult” symbols like the sign of Jupiter or Jupiter’s flash, the Chaos Star and so on. At the same time people become more aware of occultism in the highest circles ruling the earth from the shadows – the actors are not even known to most of us – bloggers speculate and estimate the most horrible motivations behind all of this.”

BORIS NAD:

“Jupiter’s flash, for example means something good like hope, an unexpected, lucky happening, times of pulsing life that bring positive changes with them, but chaos magic and such might frighten many people, especially because of the Jesus archetype in all of us, evenMuslims – what do you think, will they accept the new theory, find faith in it?

BORIS NAD:

Political doctrines and ideologies of our time are only distorted and largely or completely secularized, ancient forms of religious concepts and ideas.

They have their distant, degenerate and late echo, devoid of its religious essence. But even in such form, often distorted beyond recognition, they still maintain their original archetypal content, together with a surprisingly large number of people. On the other hand, the masses are not able to accept the many concepts and ideas. Should it be surprising that there are profound differences between what is presented to the masses, and what the elite believe, or the pseudo-elite? But “at the end of time,” the truth is close at hand, but only rarely recognized. Symbols and archetypes work even if we are not conscious of them – especially then. The Archetype of Savior – Christ, hence the effect on Muslims or Buddhists, the archetype of God’s prophets too. Hindus know the nine avatars – the tenth is still expected. For Christians, Orthodox Christians, in particular, it is the second coming of Christ, the time of destruction and chaos, and time of the new birth. The end of one cycle, the beginning of a new one.

ROBERT SCHMADTKE:

Prof. Dugin, you and the other theoreticists found a way to syncretize all these different influences, so if you don’t mind, I’d like to ask you about the influence of freemasonry on you and also on president Putin. Do you belong to any lodge?

BORIS NAD:

I have no knowledge about whether Putin belongs to a Masonic lodge. And I do not think it is particularly important.

As for me personally, however there are authors who belonged to Freemasonry and were to some extent, an influence on me. But this applies to the 18th and 19th century, not the modern Masons. Was I a member of a lodge? If I was, do you think I’d admit that?

ROBERT SCHMADTKE:

Some people know, that former Russian President Michail Gorbachev gave permission to international freemasonry to do, what they usually do, as they call it philanthropy, and think perhaps he got his job from them. Stalin is claimed to have been a high grade freemason, but during the cold war, freemasons’ activities were officially prohibited. Did they continue in a covert way after Stalin’s exclusion? How was it exactly, did he step out or was he thrown out of it?

BORIS NAD:

The influence of Freemasonry is probably much more important in some of the earlier epochs of history than it is today. I do not think that the Masons in our time are especially influential. There is, after all, a series of secret societies, some of which still remain truly secret and are able to drive or to significantly influence the course of historical events. Masonry would be, in this case, only the outer mantle, beneath which hide the true secret organizations, which represent genuine religious principles.

ROBERT SCHMADTKE:

It’s also said, that Putin at least was a member of the Royal Arc Lodge, which actually has no typical signs of freemasonry on its celebrating coats, there’s this picture where Putin together with George W. Bush and a Chinese functioner together walk on a lawn, smiling happily. Do you want to tell me about this development, give me insights? Did Putin perhaps step out of the lodge because of better influence by Prof. Dugin and friends?

BORIS NAD:

There is one very inspired author, whose concepts correspond to the theme of geopolitical conspiracy, “The great war of continents”, about which wrote Dugin – Jean Parvulesco.

It is a kind of geopolitical mysticism. For him it is a new Eurasian empire, Empire of the End Times, for which the right person is, according to Parvulesco, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

For Parvulesco, “Putin is the direct emanation of the secret revolutionary groups of the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union”.

For Putin there’s almost a sacred role. He is a true messiah of the new empire. Parvulesco claims that Putin was prepared for its mission for years. It makes its appearance in a moment of dramatic change. At this point, it is barely discernible, considered Parvulesco, but it will soon become apparent. ”

See more at: http://www.4pt.su/en/content/face-face-godgod#sthash.rnKb8EIK.dpuf

UPDATE:

According to Wikipedia, the Banu Hanifa of Najd, a Christian tribe that once controlled extensive land in Arabia, gave birth to the ancestors of the Sauds (no citation).

ORIGINAL POST

This is the second part of a two-part piece on the Donmeh  and their secretive manipulation of the Middle East, written in 2011 by Wayne Madsen (of the Madsen Report) for Strategic-Culture.org.

The Donmeh constitute an affluent crypto-Jewish, neo-Sabbatean group in Turkey that practices endogamy and has considerable political influence.

[I’ve added links, some sub-headings, bolding, and notes . My notes are in green.]

[Read Part One: The Donmeh and Turkey]

Madsen, Part Two: The Donmeh and the House of Saud:

THE 2002 IRAQI REPORT ON THE ORIGINS OF THE HOUSE OF SAUD

What will surprise those who may already be surprised about the Dönmeh connection to Turkey, is the Dönmeh connection to the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia.

An Iraqi Mukhabarat (General Military Intelligence Directorate) Top Secret report, “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots,”dated September 2002.

Lila: The study begins on page 8. of the pdf linked above.

and released on March 13, 2008, by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency in translated English form, points to the Dönmeh roots of the founder of the Saudi Wahhabi sect of Islam, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

THE MEMOIRS OF MR. HUMFER, THE BRITISH SPY

Much of the information is gleaned from the memoirs of a “Mr. Humfer,” (as spelled in the DIA report, “Mr. Hempher” as spelled the historical record) a British spy who used the name “Mohammad,” claimed to be an Azeri who spoke Turkish, Persian, and Arabic and who made contact with Wahhab in the mid-18th century with a view of creating a sect of Islam that would eventually bring about an Arab revolt against the Ottomans and pave the way for the introduction of a Jewish state in Palestine. Humfer’s memoirs are recounted by the Ottoman writer and admiral Ayyub Sabri Pasha in his 1888 work, The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism.”

LINK: Ayyub Sabri Pasha, “The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism,” 1888, republished Waqf Ikhlas, Istanbul, 1995

LINK: Confessions of a British spy and British enmity against Islam,” Waqf Ikhlas Publications No. 14, Istanbul 2001.

LINK:  “The Hidden Hand: Middle East Fears and Conspiracy,” Daniel Pipes, St. Martin’s Press, NY, 1996 pp. 211-213.

The neoconservative polemicist dismisses the Hempher story as evidence of Muslim conspiracy-mongering, but provides no evidence for his dismissal. I will follow up on the claim that the Hempher story is a hoax concocted by Sufis who detested the strict Wahhabi sect and is being disseminated by Western journalists to destabilize the House of Saud, which is the final goal of the neo-conservative plan for the Middle East, as described in The Project for a New American Century.

LILA: “The Jews of Al-Dunamah,” Dr. Mustafa Turan (Tawran), Translation of Kamal Al Khawjah, Dar Al Kutub, Al Masriyyah, Cairo, 1989, page 14 cited on page 20 of the Iraqi report. Link to book not found.

In his book, “The Dönmeh Jews,” D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq.

The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, “The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis,” Rifat Salim Kabar

(LILA: Link to book not found).

reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.”

SHULMAN, THE GRANDFATHER OF MUHAMMAD WAHHAB

In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.

The Iraqi report also makes some astounding claims about the Saud family.

It cites Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim al-Shammari’s book, “The Wahhabi Movement: The Truth and Roots”

 LILA: Al-Shammari, Abd-al-Wahab,”The True Wahabi Movement and The Roots,” Dar Al-‘Urubah,Beirut 1992 A.D. Link not found.

which states that King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, the first Kingdom of Saudi Arabia monarch, was descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Moishe, a Jewish merchant also from Basra.

In Nejd, Moishe joined the Aniza tribe and changed his name to Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa. Eventually, Mordechai married off his son, Jack Dan, who became Al-Qarn, to a woman from the Anzah tribe of the Nejd.

From this union, the future Saud family was born.

The Iraqi intelligence document reveals that the researcher Mohammad Sakher was the subject of a Saudi contract murder hit for his examination into the Sauds’ Jewish roots.

FORGERY OF SAUD-WAHHAB DESCENT FROM PROPHET MOHAMMED

In  Said Nasir’s book, “The History of the Saud Family”

it is maintained that in 1943, the Saudi ambassador to Egypt, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Muffadal, paid Muhammad al Tamami to forge a family tree showing that the Sauds and Wahhabs were one family that descended directly from the Prophet Mohammed.

LINK: “The House of Saud in Commerce,” Sharaf Sabri, 2001. A family tree of the House of Saud can be seen on page 293. I cannot list the whole table, but it says that the Saud ancestor Miqria is descended from Rabia Bin Mane, Emir of Diriyiah and Mohammed (died, 6500). Miqria’s son was Mohammed, father of Saud (died, 1725), the founder of the House of Saud.

At the outset of World War I, a Jewish British officer from India, David Shakespeare, met with Ibn Saud in Riyadh and later led a Saudi army that defeated a tribe opposed to Ibn Saud.

In 1915, Ibn Saud met with the British envoy to the Gulf region, Bracey Cocas. Cocas made the following offer to Ibn Saud: “I think this is a guarantee for your endurance as it is in the interest of Britain that the Jews have a homeland and existence, and Britain’s interests are, by all means, in your interest.”

Ibn Saud, the descendant of Dönmeh from Basra, responded: “Yes, if my acknowledgement means so much to you, I acknowledge thousand times granting a homeland to the Jews in Palestine or other than Palestine.”

BALFOUR’S LETTER SUPPORTING CREATION OF ISRAEL

Two years later, British Foreign Secretary Lord Balfour, in a letter to Baron Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Zionists, stated: “His Majesty’s government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people . . .”

The deal had the tacit backing of two of the major players in the region, both descendant from Dönmeh Jews who supported the Zionist cause, Kemal Ataturk and Ibn Saud.

The present situation in the Middle East should be seen in this light but the history of the region has been purged by certain religious and political interests for obvious reasons.

After World War I, the British facilitated the coming to power of the Saud regime in the former Hejaz and Nejd provinces of the Ottoman Empire.

SAUDIS AND KEMALISTS ATTACK SUNNIS AND SHIAS

The Sauds established Wahhabism as the state religion of the new Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and, like the Kemalist Dönmeh in Turkey, began to move against other Islamic beliefs and sects, including the Sunnis and Shi’as.

The Wahhabi Sauds accomplished what the Kemalist Dönmeh were able to achieve in Turkey: a fractured Middle East that was ripe for Western imperialistic designs and laid the groundwork for the creation of the Zionist state of Israel.

DONMEH DEEP STATES IN THE MIDDLE EAST

Deep states and Dönmeh

During two visits to Turkey in 2010, I had the opportunity of discussing the Ergenekon “deep state” with leading Turkish officials. It was more than evident that discussions about the Ergenekon network and its “foreign” connections are a highly-sensitive subject. However, it was also whispered by one high-ranking Turkish foreign policy official that there were other “deep states” in surrounding nations and Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria were mentioned by name.

MY COMMENT

What is most interesting to me  about this piece is the timing. The piece came out in 2011 and was disseminated all over the net in 2013.

However, none of this information is new. The influence of the Donmeh, for example, is well-known to experts in religion, even in the West.  The information was also widely published on the Internet nearly ten years ago on anti-Semitic or white nationalist sites.

Note: I first incorrectly identified the blog and have corrected it below.

[Update: I have removed the links, because I see that it is pulling up a page I don’t want linked here.]

 Christopher Jon Bjerknes’ blog.

(I don’t support Bjerknes’ positions. I am simply showing that this information was out on the web.

 Bjerknes wrote about the Donmeh in 2006.

Another Jewish journalist wrote about the Donmeh origin of Kemal Ataturk in the mainstream.

LINK: New York Sun, 2007:

Its strongest item was a chapter in a long-forgotten autobiography of the Hebrew journalist, Itamar Ben-Avi, who described in his book a chance meeting on a rainy night in the late winter of 1911 in the bar of a Jerusalem hotel with a young Turkish captain.

Tipsy from too much arak, the captain confided to Ben-Avi that he was Jewish and recited the opening Hebrew words of the Shema Yisra’el or “Hear O Israel” prayer, which almost any Jew or Doenmeh — but no Turkish Muslim — would have known.

QUESTION:  When this information is ignored for several years and then resurfaces around the time the Middle East is being progressively destabilized, should this be treated as disinformation at this point?

QUESTION: Do these revelations (whether accurate or not) contribute to the destabilization of the area by discrediting existing regimes in a way that helps the NWO by legitimizing the Arab Spring and undermining conservative regimes of any kind, by association?

The Donmeh and the House of Saud (continued)

Considering the links between Ergenekon and the Dönmeh in Turkey and the close intelligence and military links between the Dönmeh-descendent Sauds and Wahhabis in Arabia, the reports of close links between ousted Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his intelligence chief Omar Suleiman and the Binyamin Netanyahu government in Israel may be seen in an entirely new light…

WHY ERDOGAN SUPPORTED REVOLUTION

And it would explain Erdogan’s support for Egypt’s revolution: in Turkey, it was a democratic revolution that curbed the influence of the Dönmeh. The influence of Wahhabi Salafists in Libya’s new government also explains why Erdogan was keen on establishing relations with the Benghazi-based rebels to help supplant the influence of the Wahhabis, the natural allies of his enemies, the Dönmeh (Ergenekon) of Turkey.

Erdogan’s desire to set the historical record straight by restoring history purged by the Kemalists and Dönmeh has earned him vitriolic statements from Israel’s government that he is a neo-Ottomanist who is intent on forming an alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab countries.

Clearly, the Dönmeh and their Zionist brethren in Israel and elsewhere are worried about Dönmeh and Zionist historical revisionism, including their role in the Armenian and Assyrian genocide, and their genocide denial being exposed.

In Egypt, which was once an Ottoman realm, it was a popular revolution that tossed out what may have amounted to the Dönmeh with regard to the Mubarak regime. The Egyptian “Arab Spring” also explains why the Israelis were quick to kill six Egyptian border police so soon after nine Turkish passengers were killed aboard the Mavi Marmara, some in execution style, by Israeli troops.

DONMEH-HASIDIC DOCTRINE AND THE AMALEKITES

Dönmeh doctrine is rife with references to the Old Testament Amalekites, a nomadic tribe ordered attacked by the Hebrews from Egypt by the Jewish God to make room for Moses’s followers in the southern region of Palestine.

In the Book of Judges, God unsuccessfully commands Saul: “Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, and infant, ox, and sheep, camel and donkey.”

The Dönmeh, whose doctrine is also present in Hasidic and other orthodox sects of Judaism, appear to have no problem substituting the Armenians, Assyrians, Turks, Kurds, Egyptians, Iraqis, Lebanese, Iranians, and Palestinians for the Amalekites in carrying out their military assaults and pogroms.

With reformist governments in Turkey and Egypt much more willing to look into the background of those who have split the Islamic world, Ataturk in Turkey and Mubarak in Egypt, the Sauds are likely very much aware that it is only a matter of time before their links, both modern and historical, to Israel will be fully exposed.

It makes sense that the Sauds have been successful in engineering a dubious plot involving Iranian government agents trying to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington in an unnamed Washington, DC restaurant. The Iraqi intelligence report could have been referring to the Zionists and Dönmeh when it stated, “it strives to . . . [the] killing of Muslims, destructing, and promoting the turmoil.” In fact, the Iraqi intelligence report was referring to the Wahhabis.

With new freedom in Turkey and Egypt to examine their pasts, there is more reason for Israel and its supporters, as well as the Sauds, to suppress the true histories of the Ottoman Empire, secular Turkey, the origins of Israel, and the House of Saud.

With various players now angling for war with Iran, the true history of the Dönmeh and their influence on past and current events in the Middle East becomes more important.”

LILA: There is another book alleging a Jewish creation of the House of Saud:

LINK: “Black Terror, White Soldiers,” David Livingstone.”

LINK: Livingstone’s Website.

Torat Hamelech was a book written in in 2009 by two Rabbis of a West Bank yeshiva, codifying the rules under which it was permissible (or not) for Jews to kill Gentiles.

The book  deemed it permissible, under Jewish law, to kill civilians who merely supported or expressed approval of anti-Israeli governments,  noted that Jews should not be obliged to violate the Sabbath to save non-Jewish lives, and appeared to approve the murder of innocent civilians, including children, if they might grow up to be evil.

Its publication led to a storm in Israel and the investigation of the authors.

But in 2012 the investigation ended, with no indictment.

On July 7, 2014, Israeli parliamentarian Ayelet Shaked (a woman) called for all Palestinian mothers to be killed before they give birth to any more “little snakes.”

From journalist Max Blumenthal:

Why is Torat Hamelech so explosive?

Yuval Dror, an Israeli journalist and academic, excerpted some of the book’s most incendiary passages.

What appeared was Jewish exclusivism in its most extreme form, with non-Jews deemed permissible to kill, or Rodef, for the most inconsequential of wartime acts, including providing moral support to gentile armies.

The book is a virtual manual for Jewish extremist terror designed to justify the mass slaughter of civilians. And in that respect, it is not entirely different from the Israeli military’s Dahiya Doctrine, or Asa Kasher and Amos Yadlin’s concept of “asymmetrical warfare.”

The key difference seems to be the crude, almost childlike logic the book’s author, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, marshals to justify the killing of non-Jewish civilians.

Here are passages from Torat Hamelech, as excerpted by Dror and translated by Dena Bugel-Shunra: II.

Thou Shalt Not Commit Murder Maimonides wrote in the Halachas of Murder, Chapter A, Halacha A:

He who kills one soul of Israel violates a prohibition, as it is said “thou shalt not commit murder, and if he committed murder maliciously, in front of witnesses, his death shall be by the sword… It is therefore made explicit that the “thou shalt not commit murder” prohibition refers only to a Jew who kills a Jew, and not to a Jew who kills a gentile, even if that gentile is one of the righteous among the nations… we have derived that from the verse “thou shalt not commit murder”, one cannot learn that there is a prohibition on killing a gentile. (Page 17-18) VIII.

Conclusion I. A gentile must not kill his friend, and if he has killed, he must die.

II. The prohibition “thou shalt not commit murder” refers to a Jew who kills another Jew.

III. A Jew who kills a gentile is not required to die.

IV. The prohibition on a Jew killing a gentile derives from the fact that a gentile is not allowed to kill a gentile. (Page 27)

I. A gentile is killed for one death, and with one judge A gentile who violates one of the seven rules [of Noah] must be killed, and he is killed based on the word of one witness and with one judge and with no warning.

II. A witness becomes a judge For the Sons of Noah [gentiles] the witness can himself be a judge. This mean: if one person saw the other committing a crime – he can judge him and kill him for this, as he is the witness and he is the judge… Moses [moshe rabbenu] saw the Egyptian hitting a man of Israel, and killed him for that. So there Moses is the witness and is the judge, and this does not delay the carrying out of the law upon the Egyptian. (Pp. 49-50)

What transpires from these matters is that when you judge a gentile for crimes that he has committed – you must also consider the question of whether he has repented, and if he has – he must not be killed… moreover: it is better that the gentile repent than that we kill him.

If we come upon a gentile who does not abide by the Seven Laws [of Noah], and the importance of abiding by them can be explain to him, so he will repent – we would prefer to choose that path, and not judge an kill him. (page 70)

It is explained in Yerushalmi [codex] that when a [child of] Israel [a Jew] is in danger of his life, as people tell him ‘kill this particular gentile or you will be killed’ – is permitted to kill the gentile to save himself… and the [interpreters of the law]

Rashi and Maimonides say that the law of requiring to die rather than commit the crime is only valid in case of a Jew against another Jew, not in the case of a Jew against a stranger living among them…

[Lila: Contrast this with the Torah, where God specifically commands the Israelites to treat strangers with compunction, because of their own experience of exile.]

It is clear from these statements that when the choice is between losing the life of a stranger living among them and losing the life of a child of Israel [a Jew] – the simple decision is to permit [the killing]. (Pp. 157-158)

When the question is of a life of a gentile weighed against the life of a child of Israel [Jew], the initial proposal returns, which is that a Jew can violate law in order to save himself, as what is at stake is the soul [life] of a Jew – which supersedes the entire Torah [code of law] – in contrast with the life of a stranger living among us, which does not permit any Torah prohibition to be superseded. (page 162)

To save the life of a gentile, one does not violate the Sabbath rules, and it is clear from this that his life is not like the value of the life of a child of Israel, so it may be used for the purpose of saving the life of a child of Israel. (page 167)

An enemy soldier in the corps of intelligence, logistics, and so forth aids the army that fights against us. A soldier in the enemy’s medical corps is also considered a “rodef” [villain who is actively chasing a Jew], as without the medical corps the army will be weaker., and the medical corps also encourages and strengthens the fighters, and helps them kill us. A civilian who supports fighters is also consider Rodef, and may be killed… anyone who helps the army of the evil people in any way, strengthens the murderers and is considered to be Rodef. (page 184)

III. Support and encouragement A civilian who encourages the war – gives the king and the soldiers the strength to continue with it. Therefore, every citizen in the kingdom that is against us, who encourages the warriors or expresses satisfaction about their actions, is considered Rodef and his killing is permissible. Also considered Rodef is any person who weakens our kingdom by speech and so forth. (p. 185)

We are permitted to save ourselves from the Rodef people. It is not important who we start with, as long as we kill the Rodef people, and save ourselves from the danger they pose. And see for yourself: if you say that the fact that there are many of them brings up the question of whom to start with, and that that question is supposed to delay us from saving for ourselves – why it stands to reason: the existence of any one of them postpones the salivation, and this is the reason to treat each and every one as a complete Rodef, and to kill him, so he will not cause this ‘life-threatening’ question… Whoever is in a situation where it is clear that he will chase and danger us in the future – it is not necessary to give it fine consideration as to whether at this moment, exactly, he is actively helping the chasing [harassment?] of us. (Pp. 186-187)

X. People who were forced to partner with the enemy We have dealt, so far, with gentiles whose evil means that there is a reason to kill them. We will now turn to discuss those who are not interested in war and object to it with all force… We will start with a soldier, who is party to fighting against us, but is doing so only because he has been forced by threats to take part in the war. If he was threatened with loss of money and such things – he is completely evil. There is no permission to take part in chasing and killing due to fear of loss of money, and if he does so -he is a Rodef in every definition thereof. And if he was threatened that if he would not participate in the war, he would be killed – according to the MAHARAL [rabbi]… just as he is permitted to kill others – so, too, can others (even gentiles)kill him, so we will not die. And for this reason, according to the MAHARAL, it is simply evident that such a soldier may be killed. And according to the Parashat Drachim [rabbi? Or possibly book of law?] – he must not participate in the murdering even if he must give his life due to this. And if he does so [participates] – he is evil and may be killed, like any other Rodef. We will remind, again, that this discusses all types of participation in the war: a fighter, a support soldier, civilian assistance, or various types of encouragement and support. (P. 196)

XVI. Infants When discussing the killing of babies and children – why on the one hand, we see them as complete innocents, as they have no knowledge, and therefore are not to be sentenced for having violated the Seven Laws, and they are not to be ascribed evil intent. But on the other side, there is great fear of their actions when they grow up… in any event, we learn that there is an opinion that it is right to hurt infants if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation the damage will be directed specifically at them. (Pp. 205-200)

IV. Killing the enemy like killing our own men If the king is permitted to kill his own men for the purpose of war – that same opinion also holds with regard to people who belong to the evil kingdom. In a war of righteous people against evil people, we assume that the evil will eventually hurt us all, if we let it raise its head, and the people of the evil kingdom will also suffer from it.

We are, in fact, arguing to any person from the evil kingdom: if you belong to the evil king – you are liable to be killed for helping murderers; and if you do not help him – you should help us, and it is permissible to kill you as we kill our own people (as we are all in trouble together, and in such a situation it is permissible to kill the few in order to save the many.)

This theory also permits intentional hurting of babies and of innocent people, if this is necessary for the war against the evil people. For example: If hurting the children of an evil king will put great pressure on him that would prevent him from acting in an evil manner – they can be hurt (even without the theory that it is evident that they will be evil when they grow up.) (P. 215)

VII. Revenge One of the needs which exists, in the hurting of [Evil people?] is the revenge. In order to beat [win the war against] the evil people, we must act with them in a manner of revenge, as tit versus tat…

In other words, revenge is a necessary need in order to turn the evil-doing into something that does not pay off, and make righteousness grow stronger; and as great as the evil is – so is the greatness of the action needed against it. (Pp. 216-217)

Sometimes, one does evil deeds that are meant to create a correct balance of fear, and a situation in which evil actions do not pay off… and in accordance with this calculus, the infants are not killed for their evil, but due to the fact that there is a general need of everyone to take revenge on the evil people, and the infants are the ones whose killing will satisfy this need; and they can also be viewed as the ones who are set aside from among a faction, as reality has chosen them to be the ones whose killing will save all of them [the others from that faction?] and prevent evildoing later on.

Lila: In other words, these extremist Rabbis are guilty of the very terrorism against civilians and children of which they accuse gentiles.

Update 3:

See Daniel 7: 25 on what the anti-Christ will do:

.”…..He (shall) think to change times and laws………”

Gill’s Exposition:

“And think to change times and laws: to alter the forms and constitutions of kingdoms, and the customs and usages of them; yea, to set up and pull down kings at pleasure; see Daniel 2:21, or to change the use of times and seasons, by setting apart days as holy for canonized saints; and appointing such days in a week, and such a season in the year, for abstinence from meats; and even to change the laws of God and man, by dispensing with both, and making new ones of his own:

Update 1:

Examples of GBC gurus flouting the guru (authorized teacher) and the parampara (tradition):

(1) The GBC (Governing Body Commission) tried to copyright Hare Krishna and Sankirtana, against ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada’s express wishes.

Meanwhile, they were denigrating his style of teaching as charismatic and authoritarian.

They even accused him falsely of sex-crimes, while their own members stood accused of much worse.

[Here is a link to a gallery of what the author calls “bogus” Hare-Krishna gurus (all whites, apparently), many of them homosexuals and some pedophiles, none of which is remotely orthodox or traditional.]

Note: I cannot attest to the veracity of these charges and link to them only to show the nature of the accusations against these new gurus.

2) A GBC guru teaches consequentialism and claims to find it in the Bhagavad Gita; taking an antagonistic position to his own guru; and playing down Srila Prabhupada’s strict and correct teaching on homosexuality:

In a Bhagavatam purport (3.20.26), Srila Prabhupada says that “It appears here that the homosexual appetite of males for each other is created in this episode of the creation of the demons by Brahma.”

But Maharaja says, “Yet although homosexuality is said to have existed since the dawn of creation, the Bhagavatam does not explicitly describe nor proscribe it.”

[3] But then what does it mean to call Srila Prabhupada’s statement a purport, wherein Prabhupada explicitly describes it and proscribes it? If Srila Prabhupada’s purport does not convey the intended meaning of shastra, then it is faulty (and why even pretend to call it a “purport”?), and if it is faulty it has no authority.”

NOTE:

I have an abiding affection and respect for the Torah, the Kabbalah and Zohar, despite my dislike for some things in them. I also see Jews as very similar to Indians in their abilities and in their flaws. I believe there are some deep cultural and racial ties between the two peoples that have been obscured by mainstream history.

However, there’s no sense in pussy-footing around this topic, which is central to the whole global-government racket.

The Rothschild cabal uses its co-ethnics and co-religionists as the hit-men in its schemes, just as it used them during the Russian Revolution.

The hit-men often do not know the role they play or are so traumatized by propaganda about unremitting, uncaused persecution that they cannot see through their manipulation or the nature of their provocation of other people.

In the end, innocent Jewish people, sincere followers of the Torah or the Talmud, suffer the back-lash.  To them I offer my apologies for any offense I might give.

ORIGINAL POST

Mukunda Das at HareKrishna.com makes the charge that the ISKCON (International Society of Krishna Consciousness) has been infiltrated and subverted by “global religion” advocates, just as traditional Catholicism was, according to many sources.

This subversion is in the direction of “diacritical theology.”

“Diacritical theology” supports anti-orthodox, leftist interpretations of Hinduism, pluralism aka multi-culturalism, liberalism (anti-traditionalism), and academic theorizing.

It is against agamic, traditional, orthodox, and practice-based religion:

Devotees since the inauguration of ISKCON have recognized the role that Jewish background devotees (JBD’s, for the purpose of simplification) have played in ISKCON. This is no secret.

If one speaks of this in positive and glowing terms it is thoroughly accepted without comment.

If anyone has a realization or evidence that shows the JBD’s in a lesser light, it is strongly denounced as Anti-Semitic.

Lila: Here is the link to the accusation of anti-Semitism, made by  Nrsimhananda Das.]

Mukunda Das (continued):

Surely there is no harm in intelligently discussing the subject of the Jewish influence in our movement without resorting to being labeled as an Anti-Semite or being labeled a Bigot….. ….

..Having said all of this, I would like to ask Nrsimhananda prabhu why he has only pointed out his opinion of me being Anti-Semitic, and did not make comment on the real issues?

The issue is that when you analyze the movement’s development towards academia, liberalism, pluralism, corporatism, and impersonalism, you will find devotees who hail from a Jewish background.

The real issue is that these JBD’s are steering the movement into becoming a generic religion and using academia and interfaith ideologies to do so. These JBD’s don’t make public their papers and ideas, which are well guarded by the walls of academia and cries of Anti-Semitism by apologists and uneducated disciples and associates.

We know that these JBD’s are being very secretive in publishing their views and opinions.

If you logged onto the ISKCON administered Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies website, you will find Dr. Kenneth Valpey’s (Krishna Kshetra prabhu’s) papers are presented in a list of many other lecturers.

The only problem is that his papers are not downloadable nor are Madhavi Nevader’s “A Jewish understanding of monotheism in the Hebrew bible: In conversation with Hindu perspectives.”

Both Dr. Kenneth Valpey’s and Madhavi Nevader’s are not, but the other lecturer’s lectures are freely available and easily downloadable.

Try and find a copy of Tamal’s Thesis.”

[Lila: Despite his name, Tamal Krishna Goswami is of American and Jewish extraction. All the maha-bhagvats, the senior leaders, are American Jews. Not one is Indian!]

Mukunda Das (cont):

Dr Lipner, Tamal Krishna Goswami’s handler, states in Tamal’s Obituary:

“He placed the last chapter of his dissertation on my desk before he left for India. We were due to discuss it the week after his return. It is my intention to seek to publish the thesis in his name after due formalities have been seen to.”

Dr Lipner, a Professor at Cambridge University England, has not to date published or made public the work of the student he glorified so much. It has now been seven years since Tamal Krishna Goswami’s demise.

Nrsimhananda prabhu, if you looked at the Jewish influence in our movement from a simple statistical point of view and compared it by world population standard, the Jewish people number some .2 percent of the world population. That is Point Two Percent.

If this math is correct, then if there were 10,000 active devotees in the movement there will be only 20 devotees who come from a Jewish background.

I think you will find that there are many more than that number. What that means is not of interest here. What is of interest is how many devotees in leadership and senior positions in ISKCON are JBD’s.

You will certainly see that a disproportionate number of our leaders are of Jewish background. As Kailasa Candra dasa mentioned in his article ““ISKCON” Gurus, Initiations, and Party Men”: “In America, Jews account for less than three percent of the population.

But six of these eleven pretender maha-bhagavats, so-called Zonal Acaryas, were of Jewish descent.”

[Lila: Here is a piece on the misbehavior of these NWO  Zonal Acharyas:

One of the European Zonal Acaryas was engaged in LSD ecstacies, and, although this was covered up for years, that bluff could not last long. A West Coast Zonal got implicated in criminal activities, some of them violent, and he was relegated to the same bad boy status as TKG (eventually culminating in excommunication a few years later). Another European Zonal in due course became exposed for lavish expenditures and gold bathroom fixtures. Two of the “new gurus” became either rumored to be involved in or directly implicated in separate homosexual activities. Worst of all, the Zonal who was the chief scribe produced a very offensive and misleading biography of Srila Prabhupada.” ]

Mukunda Das (cont):

That’s well over fifty percent of the so-called successors. Why so many Jews?

TKG, himself of Jewish decent, was the man exemplifying the whole scheme. Was it some kind of Jewish cabal?”

The fact is that there is a disproportional number of JBD’s to non-JBD’s in the leadership of our movement, especially when you are referring to world population statistics.

[Lila: It is no use to suggest this number is due to high Ashkenazi IQ’s, hard-work, and superior genetics, because there are countless exemplary Indian gurus and academics who could well occupy the same positions.

Also, Brahmins, especially Tamil Brahmins, have IQs as high, if not higher, than Ashkenazim.

Finally, the Indian gurus’ command of the language and culture must naturally be much greater than that of a majority of foreigners.

By contrast, imagine if the majority of Rabbis in Israel were  of American Baptist origin or the majority of the College of Cardinals in Rome were African  converts from Islam…or the majority of  senior Imams in Iran were originally Christianized Israelis….well, one cannot even imagine such things, because they’re so ridiculous. ]

For example, if there were conservatively speaking 300 senior leaders in our movement, according to world population statistics at least 0.6 of them will be JBD’s.

That is, only ¾’s of a person would be a JBD. If we are referring to Americans, where 3% of the population are Jews, then 9 would be JBD’s. But the movement is not made up of Americans.

Looking at these very simplistic statistical results we can at least expect that one or maybe two of our leaders would be JBD. If I was to count how many JBD’s I know are in leadership, I would hazard a guess that it would be considerably more than .2% — at a very conservative guess, I would say at least 50% are JBD’s. Do the math yourself and see how many you know are our senior leaders and gurus.

You will probably find that the percentage could well be much higher than I suspect. Nrsimhananda prabhu, how many of our leaders who are JBD’s promote Pluralism, Academia, Secular Education, Interfaith and Liberalism? Then see if I am being Anti-Semitic, or am I being realistic.

Diacritical Theology is the main thrust of the various Religious Academic Institutions and interfaith dialogues. This form of Theology demands an academic approach to Scripture and its implementation.

[Lila: This is precisely what happened to orthodox Catholicism. Academic theologians – under no authoritative religious discipline – were allowed to shape Catholic doctrine and pass off pure heresy as doctrine.Then the heresies and malpractice were used to denigrate Catholicism, while the doctrines were diluted or changed.

The same thing is being done to Hinduism: it is being remade to conform to the need of the New World Order for a one-world religion.]

Diacritical Theology, put simply, means that one must use one’s intelligence to critically analyze Scriptural text and the word of the guru or theologian.

[Lila: The first demand of a guru in any monastic/religious order is the demand for obedience. That is why Jesus himself is described as “obedient unto death.”]

Mukunda Das (cont):

…… The result of Tamal Krishna Goswami’s and Krishna Kshetra prabhu’s analysis of Srila Prabhupada and his teachings is clearly evident in this paper.

We have no need of Tamal Krishna Goswami’s so-called Doctoral Thesis to elucidate their opinion.

To sum it up, they say that Srila Prabhupada’s time has come to an end and it is now the time of the Academic Diacritical Theologian.

Srila Prabhupada’s approach was old school, top down authoritarian, and acculturated blind following. Therefore, it was counterproductive for the achievement of the fullest human potential.”

[Lila: This is a direct reference to the  “Human Potential Movement,” another counter-cultural movement.]

He promulgated an archaic sectarian approach to religion that did not allow for open and honest religious dialogue and acceptance of other faiths.

In other words, they know better than Srila Prabhupada. Nrsimhananda prabhu, if you were to critically analyze the paper that they presented to the academic world, then maybe you will see what I am saying instead of hiding behind name calling.

I fully acknowledge that there are many sincere JBD’s in ISKCON who are very serious about their spiritual life and are serving Srila Prabhupada to their best ability and with all their heart, who have nothing whatsoever to do with these people.

To these devotees I offer my most humble and sincere apologies if I have offended you. My only desire is to have this subject matter discussed in an open and honest manner and to end all this secrecy and deception. For what a wicked web we weave when at first we practice to deceive…”

Wikipedia says that Srila Prabhupada himself created the GBC and appointed the gurus.

But whether he did or not, he could not possibly have intended for it to do away with the guru-shishya (master-apprentice/devotee) parampara (tradition), subjecting it to a centralized bureaucratic committee that depends on voting:

Krishna advises in the beginning of the Bhagavad-gita that if one wants to make spiritual advancement, he must surrender to a bona fide spiritual master, inquire submissively, render service and offer obeisances because such a self-realized soul can give him real knowledge, as he has seen the truth. ISKCON has long ago rejected these clear instructions from Krishna and openly preaches to the devotees that they should surrender to ‘spiritual masters’ who are not self-realized and who have not seen the truth, and that somehow they will benefit from this.

But now, since this new parallel lines paper has become ISKCON law, they have practically eliminated the guru from ISKCON. Now the guru in ISKCON is simply a servant of the centralized, bureaucratic and dictatorial GBC, who give orders which the ‘gurus’ must follow, or be considered ‘rogue gurus’ and face excommunication from ISKCON. There are no parallel lines of authority any more. There is only one authority, the GBC, and everyone in ISKCON must surrender to and serve the GBC.

UPDATE 3: I’ve corrected my reference to the Scythians, which is based on an incorrect reference in Josephus, the 1st century Jewish historian….or, so it’s alleged, although I wouldn’t discount a red herring of some kind in all these revisions…

I previously posted on the equation of Magog with Lydia.

(Rabbi Shternbuch: We have entered Messianic times.”)

UPDATE 2:

I want to clarify that I actually think “the West” is a term inadequate to describe the New World Order, since the leadership of many other countries, Russia included, seem to be under the control of the elite bankers.

I decided to change the title to reflect my thinking:

Gog of Magog could well be the West AND its opponents – Russia and its allies.

This interpretation would make sense of the iteration of the prophecy in Revelation as Gog AND Magog.

If Kabbalistic bankers orchestrate both sides of the conflict, then Gog and Magog do indeed come from the four quarters of the world, as St. John writes.

UPDATE:
Bernard Lewis analyzes the level of confusion involved in

First, identifying modern Yiddish-speaking Ashkenazy Jewish people (of mixed racial descent) with the 19th century linguistic classification of “Semitic” (which includes Hebrew, Arabic, Babylonian, Akkadian and many other dead and living languages of differing racial groups)

and

Second, conflating that word (Sem-itic) with the semi-mythological racial group of Shem-ites who supposedly descend from one of Noah’s three sons, following the flood.

ORIGINAL POST

Who are Gog and Magog and why is that information vital not only for Christians, but for anyone concerned about the increasingly troubled state of world affairs?

According to the Revelation of St. John the Divine, the last canonical book of the Christian Bible, the all-powerful rulers who fight against Jesus Christ at his Second Coming are Gog and Magog:

Revelation 20:7 (King James Version):

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.”

Here, the two names are treated as a pair.

But, earlier, they are differentiated.

Gog of Magog is mentioned in the Old Testament book of the prophet Ezekiel (Chapters 38-39).

Ezekiel 38: 1-3 (KJV):

“He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted.
(Gog, not Agag, in the Septuagint).

Christian Zionists like John Hagee interpret Gog of Magog as the ruler (Gog) of Russia, since he is described in the Bible as coming from the far north and being a world leader of great power.

They treat the word Rosh anachronistically as a reference to Rus, although that name was first used only in the ninth century AD.

(I wrote tenth earlier, incorrectly).

Like Gog, Rosh is more accurately translated as “prince” or “chief.”

The Dispensationalists also identify the state of Israel, created in 1948, with the Biblical nation of Israel.

But Dispensationalists profess doctrines that are not only heretical by the standards of orthodox Christianity, but morally suspect.

Yet, both identifications (of Gog of Magog as Russia and of Biblical Israel as modern Israel) form the justification of American Christian support of Israel, a support that is all but uncritical.

For instance, the Ukrainian crisis this past year was viewed through the prism of the Gog-Magog prophecy, both by Christians and by Jews.

President Vladimir Putin, in moving into the Ukraine, was not simply affirming the boundaries of Russia’s traditional sphere of influence, they argued, he was enacting the role of Gog (the chief prince) of Magog ( identified as Russia and its allies) seizing a pawn in a chess-match against no less than the Davidic Messiah-to-come

However, if we start from the premise that the current Western order, despite its support by a large number of  Christian churches, is culturally anti-Christian, or, at best, post-Christian, then opposing it can hardly be the work of an evil despot, rather it is a moral duty of Christians.

Perhaps, then, we have another and better candidate for the title of Gog of Magog: the West itself.
If Gog is not so much a specific person as the leader of the people from the region of Magog, it only remains to ask where Magog is.

In prophetic times, Magog was a region to the north of Israel.

It was the home of the nomadic war-like Scythians whom many regard as the forebears of  (or close relations to) the Ashkenazy Jews.

[Correction: This identification of Gog/Magog with the Scythians comes from an incorrect statement by the first century AD Jewish historian Josephus in “The Antiquities of the Jews.” Jospehus supposedly misreported Greek statements to equate the Magogites with the Ashkenaz, whereas it was the Scythians who were the Ashkenaz.

Ashkenaz is considered an ancient term for Germany or the German tribes.

Herodotus identified Lydia, the home of the ancient Etruscans, with Magog.

The Lydians later migrated to Rome, created the Etruscan civilization, and founded the city of Rome, from which the Roman empire sprang.

Gyges of Lydia (Gugu), as I’ve blogged before, is the original Gog of Magog.

Magog, Meschech, Tubal, Gomer, and Togarmah all fit within the region of Asia Minor.

North of Asia Minor, on the other hand, was the home of the medieval Khazars, a powerful Turko-Mongolic people who converted to Judaism for political reasons.

One tenacious theory claims that the descendants of the Khazars are the Ashkenazim, who comprise some 80-90 percent of modern Jews and form the leadership of the international order.

Many Jews regard the Khazar theory as an anti-Semitic canard, although it was first proposed by a  Jewish writer, Arthur Koestler.

On the fall of Khazaria, Koestler argued, the converts migrated to Eastern Europe and Germany and quickly established themselves there, intermarrying with the European population.

Current research confirms part of this –  most Jews today have European genetic ancestry, through the mother’s line.

However, the rest of the theory is still debatable.

Caucasian and Middle-Eastern ancestry has been shown in the paternal line, but  what that means is still controversial.

Certainly Sephardic (non-European) Jews are closely related to Palestinians.

But it is the Ashkenazim, not the Sephardim, who most vocally claim to be the heirs of  the Old Testament covenant between Jehovah and ancient Israel.

The Rothschilds claim to descend directly from the House of David, the genetic descendants of Jacob, who was named Israel by God.

But genetics so far show that the Ashkenazim are closer to Armenians, Georgians, and other European or Turkic people, than they are to the ancient Hebrews.

Genesis agrees with genetics.

The Hebrews, who sired Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are descendants of Eber, from the line of Shem, son of Noah, whereas the European people, including the Turks,  Georgians, and Armenians, are said to descend from Japheth, who sired the whole Indo-European group.

Among the descendants of Japheth are Magog and a group called the Ashchenaz, which is taken to refer to the Germanic tribes.

Credit: After the Flood:

(In the Hindu Puranas, Japheth is Pra-Jyapathi).

Credit: Wikipedia

Furthermore, genetic research suggests that it is the native Palestinians (whether Muslim or Christian) and some Sephardic Jews who are closer in blood to the Jews of Jesus’ time, not the Ashkenazim.

Complicating the matter, the word Jew can be applied properly to descendants of only one of Jacob’s twelve sons – Judah.

If the Jews of today are mostly Ashkenazy and thus Japhethic, they cannot properly be called Semitic (of Shem), let alone Jewish (of Judah, or Judahite).

So let us side with Genesis and not Rothschild.

Genesis says Magog is not Jewish (that is, not of the Tribe of Judah) and not Israelite (not of the House of Jacob) nor Hebrew (descended from Eber, the son of Shem).

Magog is the descendant of Noah’s son Japheth.

If we accept Magog as the region of the Caucasus and Georgia and the people of Magog as the part-Khazar part-Turkish part-European Ashkenazy, then it is easy to identify Gog, the leader, of Magog.

The most powerful family among the Ashkenazy Jews is the Rothschild banking family. Along with its associates and proxies, it dominates the economies, polities, and cultures of the West, and thus of most of the world.

The Rothschilds are intermarried with European nobility, including the House of Windsor, making them the head of the modern equivalent of the Roman empire.

It was among the Ashkenazy Jews that the desire for the political rebirth of Israel sprang up.
It was the Ashkenazy Jews who moved into the unwalled villages of Palestine in 1948,  with the backing of the British, and later the US, beginning an invasion that  fulfills the prophecy of invading kings from the north surrounding the City of Jerusalem.

Viewed this way, the Gog-Magog invasion can be seen as completed fact, fulfilled with astonishing accuracy, even while millions wait, dangerously, for an apocalyptic invasion.