Cho – new details: security, shooter theories, psych profile, updated 5/2

Update: Apparently he fired 225 rounds altogether, according to this report:

Cho fired as many as 225 shots in rampage

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Cho SeungHui fired off as many as 225 shots as he gunned down 30 students and faculty on the campus of Virginia Tech before turning the gun on himself, a law enforcement source told CNN Friday.

That figure is based on the number of bullets and the 17 empty ammunition magazines found at Norris Hall, the source said.

Another law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said most of the victims were shot at least three times. A doctor who treated some of the survivors Monday said they also had multiple gunshot wounds, and no one had less than three. –From CNN’s Deb Feyerick and Kevin Bohn (Posted 2:08 p.m.)

Update: There is an ABC report, May 2, saying that a note was left after the first shooting at Ambler Johnston. This gets really confusing. Are they talking about the 8 page note said to be in his backpack or found in his room, depending on which report you read? Or is this something new? Puzzled.

Update: 45 hits (dead and injured) according to some, 61 according to Wiki -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_victims_of_the_Virginia_Tech_massacre

OK….each victim was hit at least 3 times, so that’s 135 hits…and maybe more, say 150, out of 170 rounds fired, which is a very high hit rate. If we use wiki’s figure, that’s 183…out of 170!

Have to check when that report about 255 rounds came out .Is that old? Unsubstantiated? A new version to make the whole thing make sense? No idea right now.

 

Wiki’s description of Cho before high school makes him sound very normal; it’s even positive:

Cho studied at Poplar Tree Elementary School in Chantilly, an unincorporated section of Fairfax County. According to Kim Gyeong-won, Cho’s friend in elementary school for three years (and currently a student of Seoul’s Kyung Hee University), Cho finished the school’s three-year program in one and a half years. Cho was noted for being good at mathematics and English, and teachers pointed to him as an example for other students.[18]

Kim met Cho in fifth grade, attending the same classes and riding the school bus together. There were only three Korean students in the school.[19] Back then, he said, nobody hated Cho and he “was recognised by friends as a boy of knowledge… a good dresser who was popular with the girls.” Cho kept a distance from others because he chose to do so. Kim added that “I only have good memories about him.”[18][19]

 

In an interview with WSLS News Channel 10 in Roanoke, Chastity Frye told the station she was hired by Cho for an hour of services.“He was so quiet, I really couldn’t get much from him, he was so distant,” said Frye. “It seemed like he wasn’t all there.” In relation to this, I want to note that there were also reports that Cho had been interested in a college mate and then had complained that he saw “promoscuities” in her eyes.

Others have speculated about Cho’s isolation, pointing out that V Tech was renowned for the beauty of the young women who studied there and that the taciturn, moroseCho might have felt acutely isolated. Cho was actually a Math A student in high school who switched to English. Others have suggested that Cho was a narcissist whose complete self-abosrption , grandiosity and lack of empathy led him to avenge his own failings on others. They point out the exhibitionism displayed in the methodical nature of the killings, the exibitionism in the videos, the dress-up aspect of it – cutting his hair close and working out in the weeks before, as well as discarding his gold rimmed glasses.

This post suggests schizophrenia, associated with the children of parents who work as dry-cleaners, and caused by chemicals used in their work.

Here he is described as having conversations with himself and having stopped coming to class for a month before the killing. Doesn’t anyone keep track of attendance?

One blog post theorizes that Cho could not have been the killer, because of the nature of the gunshots that killed him. The poat also notes the early descriptions of a killer fleeing the building and of someone who was 6 ft doing the shooting.

There was no one who actually witnessed him killing himself as everone in the room (except one person) was dead in the classroom in which Cho’s body was found. That story is repeated in this account too.

Now, this report states that the police heard the last shot just as they climbed to the second floor. They didn’t say they actually aw him do it.
Another interesting fact is reported in this article which suggests that Cho might have been of Japanese origin (??? doesn’t look Japanese to me, but I know nothing about the area) and that he might be one of a group of children (maybe it means Korean children) kidnapped and trained to harass adults. Need to learn more about this.

And this:

A school official points to the name of Cho Seung-Hui, the gunman in the Virginia Tech shootings in Blacksburg, Va., in a school record at the Shinchang Elemetary School that Cho attended for first grade and half of second grade in Seoul, South Korea, Wednesday, April 18, 2007. Cho‘s family had struggled while living in South Korea and emigrated to the U.S. to seek a better life, a newspaper reported Wednesday. The Korean words read ” Immigrate to oversea, Cho Seung-Hui.”

I am not certain if this next post is authentic, but, in it apparently the gun-owner who sold the Glock to Cho says that the ATF ( Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) indicated to him that they would keep the information about the receipt (not clear) low-key. (Warning: not clear about this thread’s authenticity)

A Washington Post report describes the killer as impassive and in blue jeans and blue jacket (later he was laughing and wearing all black):

“The shooter, whose name was not released last night, wore bluejeans, a blue jacket and a vest holding ammunition, witnesses said. He carried a 9mm semiautomatic and a .22-caliber handgun, both with the serial numbers obliterated, federal law enforcement officials said. Witnesses described the shooter as a young man of Asian descent — a silent killer who was calm and showed no expression as he pursued and shot his victims. He killed himself as police closed in.”
By the way, the media is mistaken in calling this the biggest school killing. The most prolific school killer is Andrew Kehoe (45 people) in the Bath School disaster, three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, USA, on May 18, 1927.

This report talks about the number of rounds: 170 rounds were fired in 9 minutes. His body was found in a classroom with his victims. That time frame sounds incredible to me, although I hear that the Glock is capable of it.
More on Security:

Here, for comparison, is the security routine that is actually practiced on most campuses. V- Tech, despite its prior experiences, seems to be quite lax:

Boise State is actively patrolled by campus security officers, law enforcement officers and parking services personnel. The Boise Police Department is physically located on campus with a dispatch center that monitors alarms and then sends security and police officers to incidents on campus.
We are assigned six police officers plus one lieutenant exclusively. There are 38 emergency blue light phones on campus that have a direct line to the Boise police substation.

 

In the residence halls, there are on-site professional staff members 24 hours a day, seven days a week. There are two security officers assigned exclusively to the residence halls. All doors require electronic card access to open.

 

Boise State operates a department of public safety. Campus security is very active in crime prevention. For example, Boise State offers an emergency cell phone program, online crime reporting services and an Ask-A-Cop program among other safety initiatives.

 

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Now here are some timelines/explanations I’ve gathered:
This report details early explanations given by by the school.

And this has an early description of the shootings.

Monday, April 16th 2007 12:23PM
Virginia Tech police have confirmed 22 fatalities resulting from the campus shootings today. The gunman has also been confirmed dead.

Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall by police. The three were handcuffed, separated, questioned, unhandcuffed and then canine teams were sent into Norris Hall said junior computer engineer Nick Saunders who watched the events unfold from the the second floor of Randolph Hall.

According to the university, classes have been cancelled for Tuesday, April 17.

Monday, April 16th 2007 11:57AM
Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall in handcuffs by police. The three were then unhandcuffed and canine teams were sent into Norris Hall.
http://collegemedia.com/

Further details:

An Arlington County consulting firm that evaluated the emergency response to the 1999 Columbine High School shootings and other public safety crises has been hired by state officials to assist the panel that will investigate the Virginia Tech massacre.

TriData Corp. will provide staff and research support to the eight-member panel named last week by Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D). Kaine, in Northern Virginia yesterday for a community meeting with the South Korean ambassador, met privately with Philip S. Schaenman, TriData’s president. Schaenman said the contract terms are being worked out.

A division of defense contractor System Planning Corp., TriData is best known for studying fire safety issues. But it also conducted a study for the Federal Emergency Management Agency on police and emergency medical response to the shootings at Columbine, in which two students killed 15, including themselves, at the Colorado school. The report pointed out problems with communications and management of the disaster scene.

The firm was retained by Virginia officials to review the chaotic response to a false positive anthrax test at the Pentagon’s remote mail facility and a similar alarm at Defense Department sites in Fairfax County in March 2005.

Again the firm concluded that poor communication and unclear chains of command hampered coordination between federal officials and local jurisdictions.Schaenman told a congressional committee that the response was “the homeland security version of the fog of war.”

ABC made an interesting gaffe related to whether the Feds actually have a data base of all drugs:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=2

“Some news accounts have suggested that Cho had a history of antidepressant use, but senior federal officials tell ABC News that they can find no record of him in the governments files on controlled substances. This does not completely rule out prescription drug use, including samples from a physician, drugs obtained through illegal Internet sources, or a gap in computer databases, but the sources say theirs is a reasonably complete search.

(NOTE: Some readers may have inferred from an earlier edition of this story that the federal government keeps a comprehensive record of all prescriptions. The Drug Enforcement Agency says it does track prescriptions of so-called controlled substances — including some mood-altering medications — but not all prescriptions made in the United States.)

More details:

Sections of chain similar to those used to lock the main doors at Norris Hall, the site of the second shooting that left 31 dead, were also found inside a Virginia Tech dormitory, sources confirmed to ABC News.

One neighbor, Marshall Main, describes Cho’s parents as quiet and polite. Neither Main nor another neighbor recalled seeing the son in recent years.

Mask and speech mentioned in early report of killer’s demeanor

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=22&art_id=nw20070418093520510C653345

By The Associated Press

BLACKSBURG, Va. — A shooting at a Virginia Tech dorm Monday left one person dead and one wounded, a state government official with knowledge of the case told The Associated Press.

A government official with knowledge of the shooting said the gunman had been arrested. [emphasis added]

The state university said on its Web site that a shooting had occurred at a residence hall and that students should stay in their homes away from windows.

“There’s just a lot of commotion. It’s hard to tell exactly what’s going on,” said student Jason Anthony Smith, 19, who lives in the building where the shooting took place.

The shooting was reported at West Ambler Johnston Hall.

Officials ordered the campus closed, the second time in less than a year the 26,000-student campus was shut because of a shooting.

In August 2006, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff’s deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus.

The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.

Cho suspected his Taiwanese girlfriend of seeing another man and had a row with her in the West Ambler Johnston Residence Hall, a co-ed dormitory in the sprawling campus of the university Monday morning. When a residentadvisor came to resolve the problem between the two students, Cho shot him. He then shot the girl.

University police, who came to West Ambler in response to an emergency call, told inmates of the dormitory to stay inside and started investigations.

Cho reported as smiling in early reports:

According to one witness, “he shot every person thrice” with a smile on his face. G.V. Loganathan, the 51-year-old Indian origin professor of civil and environmental engineering, was taking a class when Cho shot him in his head.

According to reports, also killed was Minal Panchal, a 26-year-old female Indian student who was attending Loganathan’s class.

http://www.drudge.com/news/93413/cho-seung-hui-spoke-class-monday

In recent weeks his routine had changed. His roommates say he went to the campus gym at night, lifting weights to bulk up. He went for a haircut — surprising them by coming back to the room with a military-style buzz cut.

Aust and another roommate, Karan Grewal, say they were aware that Cho had pursued women on campus. They said he also seemed to have an imaginary girlfriend, a supermodel named “Jelly.” ”

Uh-oh. Cho was sneakin’ around with Sick Willy’s main squeeze, Jelly.

Think her initials are K Y.?

And that military buzz cut. That’s a dead give away. All atheist Buddhist mass murderers have those, if you will notice.

Delay in reporting deaths:

Ross Alammedine

Mass. man slain in Virginia Tech massacre mourned in Saugus

by jay lindsay / associated press writer

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APR 17, 2007 10:10 PM EDT

SAUGUS, Mass. (AP) — When the computers went down at Austin Preparatory School, there was no need to call the technicians if Ross Alameddine was around.

Alameddine was a well-known a computer whiz, fixing problems so quickly that teachers didn’t bother with the IT guys. He also sold computers during a summer job at a mall a few miles from his Saugus house.

On Tuesday, the drapes at that house were drawn as his family mourned the 20-year-old Alameddine’s death at the hands of a senior who killed 32 in a mass murder at the Virginia Tech campus, before turning the gun on himself.

A few feet from the door of his Saugus home, a police cruiser was parked around midday to keep the media away and help the family deal with their grief in private.

“I’m just trying to get through the day here,” said Alameddine’s mother, Lynnette, said earlier Tuesday.

Stunned friends and former teachers remembered Alameddine not only for his smarts in a range of subjects, from math to foreign languages, but also for his dry wit and ironic sense of humor.

“We’re very sad that he’s gone,” said David Boschetto, a math teacher at Austin Prep, the private school in Reading where Alameddine’s sister also attended. “It was very, very shocking to me and the rest of his teachers … He was just a wonderful kid.”

The sophomore was in French class at the Blacksburg, Va., school on Monday when Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old, moved between classrooms, indiscriminately shooting at students in morning classes.

Lynnette Alameddine didn’t find out her son was one of the victims until more than 12 hours later, which she called “outrageous.”

“It happened in the morning and I did not hear (about her son’s death) until a quarter to 11 at night,” she said. “That was outrageous. Two kids died, and then they shoot a whole bunch of them, including my son.”

At Best Buy in Saugus, store manager Rich Stoney followed the news of the shootings because he knew his summer worker Alameddine went to Virginia Tech. He was devastated to learn the young employee was among the dead.

Stoney said Alameddine was fun-loving, good-humored and had a great touch with customers because he was able to relate his “exceptional” computer skills to the average person.

“There’s not enough good things to say about that kid,” Stoney said.

Classmate Katherine Williams said Alameddine was known in the tight Austin Prep community as a genial kid who was ready to lend a hand with homework, if needed.

Later in his high school career, Alameddine developed at interest in drama, and performed in the school’s production of the Agatha Christie play, “The Mousetrap.”

His interest in gaming was seen in a March post on a blog about Guild Wars, an online role-playing game.

At a facebook.com tribute, friends recalled Alameddine as “extraordinarily witty and sarcastic, strong willed and a grammar god far superior to all of us.”

At the Web site, some longtime classmates wrote about their days in school withAlameddine, dating back to St. Mary’s elementary and middle school in Melrose. They recalled everything from his “crazy legs” on the dance floor to where he sat in French class.

Some expressed their grief with poems and others, like a student from Bridgewater State College, kept the goodbyes simple. He wrote, “rest easy ross.”

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The Psychology of Taboo

The psychologist Philip Tetlock has argued that the mentality of taboo–the belief that certain ideas are so dangerous that it is sinful even to think them–is not a quirk of Polynesian culture or religious superstition but is ingrained into our moral sense. In 2000, he reported asking university students their opinions of unpopular but defensible proposals, such as allowing people to buy and sell organs or auctioning adoption licenses to the highest-bidding parents. He found that most of his respondents did not even try to refute the proposals but expressed shock and outrage at having been asked to entertain them. They refused to consider positive arguments for the proposals and sought to cleanse themselves by volunteering for campaigns to oppose them. Sound familiar?

The psychology of taboo is not completely irrational. In maintaining our most precious relationships, it is not enough to say and do the right thing. We have to show that our heart is in the right place and that we don’t weigh the costs and benefits of selling out those who trust us. If someone offers to buy your child or your spouse or your vote, the appropriate response is not to think it over or to ask how much. The appropriate response is to refuse even to consider the possibility. Anything less emphatic would betray the awful truth that you don’t understand what it means to be a genuine parent or spouse or citizen. (The logic of taboo underlies the horrific fascination of plots whose protagonists are agonized by unthinkable thoughts, such as Indecent Proposal and Sophie’s Choice.) Sacred and tabooed beliefs also work as membership badges in coalitions. To believe something with a perfect faith, to be incapable of apostasy, is a sign of fidelity to the group and loyalty to the cause. Unfortunately, the psychology of taboo is incompatible with the ideal of scholarship, which is that any idea is worth thinking about, if only to determine whether it is wrong.

Stepehen Pinker

in The New Republic

Spengler on the Media

The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. But, as in every army, the soldier obeys blindly, and the war aims and operating plans change without his knowledge. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play. There is no more appalling caricature of freedom of thought. Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.”

V-Tech: Cho Video-fatigues,bullets, symbols, clip between killings- 4/27

Update: Link to a portion of the manifesto – read the language…

Update on Ismail Ax:

(Includes various theories: Ismail, as a reference to the email program….or a misspelling of Turkish hip-hop artist Ismail YK… the name of a character that he created for a computer game — but his roommates said he did not play games, though they did note that he liked to download and listen to music, particularly the song “Shine” by Collective Soul.

Then there is the Moby Dick theory but the problem is that the spelling of the name is different…or a character in The Prairie by James Fenimore Cooper, Ishmael Bush, who clears land with an axe wherever he goes, but there is the problem again of the spelling of the name…too subtle.

Then there is the Islamic retooling of the Abraham, Isaac account…see here. There’s also about Ibrahim taking his axe to the temple idols. The thing is, it’s Ibrahim, not Ismail using the axe.

Some people are thinking it might be an anagram….and here’s more info on that.

See also this column by Frank Salvato.
Three points made in a Mirror (UK) article:

1. On page two, sandwiched between a picture of the sky and a photo of Cho in combat fatigues, he wrote: “Are you happy now that you have destroyed my life? Now that you have stolen everything you could from me?”

(I should note that there was a photo circulated on the net said to be Cho on campus in uniform. I haven’t posted it, because I couldn’t tell how authentic it was).

2. Cho made the final changes to the booklet and is thought to have filmed as least one of the video films then as well. In the clip he is seen wearing the military-style vest described by massacre witnesses.

Having finished his manifesto, Cho walked to a post office and mailed it to NBC.

3. On page 11, Cho drew two bizarre sketches. The first is a red heart with a cross and pair of eyes inside. The second is a stylised number 88 -with a caption that reads: “Number of the anti-terrorist.”

My Comment:

The number is thought to be a reference to an Indonesian police anti-terror unit named Detachment 88 in memory of the 88 Australians who died in the 2002 Bali bombings.

Again – it sounds like he is just picking up things from all over the place. He is identifying here with anti-terror, not terror, just as his references (to me) sound like identification with all victims, including the victims of 9-11.

I will try to find out more about the heart and the eyes and 88.

 

The Lutheran church uses the heart and cross, as does the Sacred Heart. The all seeing eye is a well known Hermetic and Masonic symbol but it is also a widely used convention in its own right. The eye set in a triangle is said to be non- Masonic. It is used on the US dollar bill as well in in DARPA as a symbol for the Total Information Awareness Program.I do not know what the eye in the heart signifies.

Update:

Aresume posted on the VT Computer Science Department website by Robert G. Ball notes grants awarded to the university by ARDA/DTO, short for Advanced
Research and Development Activity, Disruptive Technology Office. “ARDA was created in 1998 after the model of the Defense Advanced ResearchProjects Agency (DARPA) by the Director of Central Intelligence and the
Department of Defense, and took responsibility for funding some of DARPA’s projects,” explains Wikipedia.
“There has been speculation that the DTO is continuing research efforts started under the Total Information Awareness program (TIA) in DARPA’s
Information Awareness Office (IAO)…. Although ARDA’s budget is presumably classified as part of the intelligence budget, the New York Times quoted an unnamed former government official saying the agency spent about $100 million a year in 2003. The Associated Press reports that ARDA had a staff of only eight in 2004.” Early last year, DTO is reported to be run by John Negroponte) (need confirmation).

 

 

 

VT is also the site of micro air vehicle technologies research –

Micro air vehicles are airborne vehicles that are no larger than six inches in either length, width or height and perform a useful military mission at an affordable cost.

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I have read- although I can’t confirm the information – that the symbols are a mish-mash of symbols drawn from Christian identity or Aryan symbology. I can’t speak to this. Cho, as a literature student, probably put together a number of symbols in his environment in a creative way, which is why I stick with the “classic school shooter” profile.

“On page 21, Cho is pictured clutching both fists to his chest and in another photo points both his guns at the camera. Above the photo he wrote: “Let the revolution begin!”
Also interesting were comments by an expert that he showed two alternating personalities, one very impassive and zombie-like (in the clip thought to have been photographed in the interim between the two shootings), which the expert felt indicated drug usage

and the other, seen in the clips photographed prior to the shooting, very aggressive and exhibitionistic, almost play-acting, something I also observed earlier on in my posts.

It’s also reported that he wore combat fatigues (p.2) and a military vest and that the bullets were the type (hollow point), intended to expand on impact and reduce the victims’ chances of surviving. I have read that these bullets are only intended for target shooting.

 

 

V-Tech: Oddities – Photo of 30 bullets, Cho suicide note, updated 4/26 AM

This article from the Sidney Morning Herald draws attention to something that also puzzles me. Granted that Cho trained at a firing range (and also possibly through video games, although this is controversial and possibly mistaken) and may have been at it for a long time for all we know, still, how could he have figured he was going to shoot 30 people and then actually go and kill 30 people (in the second killing)?

Did he practice some kind of autohypnosis, taking the photo and then dwelling on the image to “psych” himself into doing it? It’s possible. Certainly, visualization is a very important part of peak performance training in many areas for a good reason; it works.

But then, if he was really able to shoot that accurately (the reports say he was firing from close range and missing a lot, as well), why not be completely accurate; why not 32 bullets for his 32 victims?

Could this be interpreted to mean that he only focused on the second killing not the first? Or only committed the second?
Could there still be a chance that there was another killer involved, as well (- which the police themselves haven’t entirely ruled out)? Theories will abound. We still need a lot more.

Another point: I found this early report saying no suicide note had been left. This is two days after the killing. That’s clearly wrong, since the suicide note was reported quite early on, although its location has never been made clear. That might be understandable. There was a lot of confusion at the crime scene.
The suicide note was reported in one account to have been in the room. Now I hear it was found either in the back pack found in the hall of Norris Hall OR in the room.

Another point is made in this quote:

“Along with 23 short videos of himself, Cho included a well-produced but rambling 1800-word manuscript, replete with 80 photographs, including some of him brandishing weapons and dressed as he was on Monday when he murdered 32 students before killing himself.”

Comment: So – the 43 photos mentioned in other reports must just be the photos that NBC has decided to release. That means they have more. Wonder why they have been withheld.

I would understand if they’re holding back to minimize copycat shootings or to protect the the victims, with which I would fully agree. But, of course, they were willing to release the other pictures, so I doubt that’s the reason. Maybe there is inflammatory material or things that need to be private so the investigation isn’t jeopardised.

Or – here’s a thought. Maybe, the photos (if they exist) are just more of the same; but withholding them allows them to create nebulous suspicions, on both sides of the political aisle.

Final Point:

Another quote from the same article:

“In it, Cho, 23, also makes a chilling reference to the “martyrs Eric and Dylan.”

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were responsible for the Columbine High School shooting in 1999, when 12 students and a teacher were killed before they turned the guns on themselves.”

My Comment:

Notice the jihadi-type of language – “martyrs.” Of course this language (what with all the Osama videos we’ve seen in the past few years) is part of the zeitgeist in which Cho grew up. This could be nothing more than that cultural baggage. To counterbalance that, here’s the actual language from this report:

He wrote (apologies for quoting offensive material): “Now that you have gone on a 9/11 on my life like (expletive deleted) Osama. Now that you have (expeletive deleted) your own people like (expletive deleted) Kim Jong-Il. Now that you have gone on a hummer safari on my life like (expeletive deleted) Bush? Are you happy now?”

My Comment:

Sounds more like a diatribe…he’s not exactly endorsing Osama or Kim Il Jong; he also identified himself with the crucified Christ, but that won’t stop the bloggers.
In one sense, it doesn’t really matter how you interpret the evidence. Just the fact of speculating and being anxious or uncertain creates a kind of trauma in the mind. That ‘s a technique that is extensively researched and used in specific acts of coercion and mental torture. And propaganda against foreign populations. What may be less understood is how it is used in propaganda against the domestic population.

Update: here’s a link to my post on the new, declassified IG’s report on the involvement of psychologists in framing torture techniques, and inferentially, torture  policy. 

V-Tech-Mid-East Connections/oddities in Cho’s family – updated 5/3

Update: This article says that Cho’s father went to Saudi Arabia to work in the oil fields, after he was married, not before, as the others state.

The piece also claims that the Cho’s bought a house worth $145,000 in Virginia in 1997, when Cho Sung Hui would have been 13, an age when psychological problems often become worse. This doesn’t square with the theory that the family was too poor to afford mental health care for him, as they likely carried medical insurance. The more plausible explanation is the stigma attached to talking about family problems to others, a stigma felt especially in Asian families.

There is also speculation in this piece that Cho might have wanted to get into V Tech’s engineering program and failed; and that that was the motive for his attack on Norris Hall — revenge.I am not entirely convinced by it.

Another interesting angle here is Cho’s sister’s intense involvement with her faith – prayer meetings and so on. I wonder whether Cho was involved in any of it. Cho was not unattached to his family – he seems to have called home every Sunday evening while he was at V Tech.

This little additional piece of information will spark more jihadi/psyop speculation:

I saw it on this blog. (OK, I found it on einnews.com, as well as in the Guardian and it’s been out since 4/19. I just hadn’t seen it, since it was a foreign source).

It seems that Cho’s father (now 61) worked in Saudi Arabia in oil for ten years. Reports describe the family as poor and living in a two-room basement apartment in S. Korea where they owned a second-hand book store. The story from relatives was that they went to the US to make good because they were poor. Of course, it depends on what the father did. I found further details in this Mirror (UK) article:

After they were married, he went away twice to Saudi Arabia in the 80s to try to make some money in the construction boom. He came back with about £2,000, which was enough to buy a small house in Seoul. He also ran a second-hand bookstore. His mother was living in the States on a long term visit to stay with his sister. She asked him to bring his family to live there.

“His sold the house to pay for the emigration costs and rented instead but there were lots of delays and eventually the whole process to get the permissions and organise things took eight years.

“By that time the money from the house was nearly gone. They were barely making ends meet so they had nothing to lose and had this idea of the American dream where there was a lot of money to be made.”

Here’s the excerpt from the Guardian:

“Cho Seung-Hui was born in South Korea. His mother, Kim Hyang-im and his father, Sung-tae were from two different backgrounds. She was from a well-educated family of North Korean landowners, who had been forced to flee without possessions during the Korean war; he was from a poor family in the south, but had made enough money to marry by working in Saudi Arabia for 10 years on construction sites and oil fields. He was 10 years her senior. Cho’s mother was forced into an arranged marriage with his father.

As Hyang-im was 29 – a late age for a woman to find a husband in South Korea – Her father told her she had to accept the proposal. “She didn’t want to marry, but she gave in,” said Yong-soon (her Aunt). “Her husband was not fit for her. But she always followed and obeyed him. She never fought him, though sometimes I wish she had done.” No one in the family recalls any violent behaviour from Cho or his parents that might have hinted at the carnage to come.

Cho’s maternal grandfather said even as a young child Cho was not like other grandchildren and would never come running to him. “The boy was so different from his super-intelligent older sister. His extreme shyness worried his parents. I thought he might be deaf and dumb.” Cho “didn’t talk much when he was young. He was very quiet, but he didn’t display any peculiarities to suggest he may have problems,” Kim(An Uncle) said. “We were concerned about him being too quiet and encouraged him to talk more.” Soon after they got to America, Cho was diagnosed as being clinically withdrawn. It amazes me that he ever made it into university. I guess he must have had some mental problems from birth.” Even though his parents worried about him because he was shy and withdrawn Cho was always well behaved.”

End of quote

The blog also has additional information about Cho’s text messages to women. Apparently, they included a quote from Romeo and Juliet:

ROMEO
By a name
I know not how to tell thee who I am:
My name, dear saint, is hateful to myself,
Because it is an enemy to thee;
Had I it written, I would tear the word.
*

Now, I have no idea how the blogger got hold of this information, perhaps from information from students that escaped media attention, and I haven’t seen it confirmed anywhere. It might be from a local newsreport that escaped the national media.

It seems to fit in with the general picture we have of Cho, who made references to Macbeth (Richard McBeef) and to Moby Dick (Ismail – at least, that’s my take on it, so far) as well.

The Guardian and Mirror reports seem to hint at problems between the parents, (they were 10 years apart in age) although this isn’t enough information to go on.

1. What I find odd here is this description of the relationship between father and children:

“But the father doted on his son and daughter. “He lived for his children. He would have done anything for them,” the grandfather recalled. “But now this has happened. It’s as if everything they’ve done, the reason for their whole existence has been for nothing. It’s as if they’ve not lived at all.”

Overtly, that doesn’t fit with the portrait of the father figures in those two wretched plays, Mr. Brownstone and Richard McBeef. But, on the other hand, we have no idea how much of this rage was based in any real life abuse. It might just be a product of Cho’s own anger, for whatever reason. OR, the rage could be directed against a teacher/mentor/some other family member.

2. The other oddity is one I have noted before:

“Soon after they got to America, he was diagnosed as being clinically withdrawn. It amazes me that he ever made it into university. I guess he must have had some mental problems from birth.” (Yong Soon, Cho’s mother’s aunt)

Now, how come there are no records of that? Shouldn’t Cho’s university health care also have had theatrecord?

Cho’s mother was described as very devoted and she apparently cared enough about him to plead with his dorm mates to help him. She reportedly spent time in church praying that he would grow more outgoing. There is also information in the Mirror article that the family was too poor to pay for a specialist, when they first came to the US:

“Both his parents knew he had mental problems but they were poor and they couldn’t send him to a special hospital in the United States.

“His mother and sister were asking his friends to help instead.”

His parents worked and did not have time to look after his condition and didn’t give him special treatment.

“They had no time or money to look after his special problem even though they knew he was autistic.”

3. The third point I find odd is that again, in these articles, Cho is described as extremely fond of video games, spending all his time on them. (Now, there was a Washington Post account that had mentioned this and then that information was withdrawn. I will try to find the URL).

But, Karan Grewal who lived with him in the same suite at V-Tech says he didn’t ever see him playing video games. It could be Grewal was mistaken, of course. But I find this odd. Of course, these reports are from his high school years or earlier. By college he might have given up the games.

So far, the Middle Eastern connections are:

1. Father worked in Saudi oil fields for 10 years

2. Sister worked in Iraq reconstruction. I hear contradictory reports, some saying she was a contractor and not in the state department; others saying she headed up some department. I think the former is more likely to be the case.

3. The name Ismail Ax marked in red ink on Cho’s arm and the name A. Ismail on the video package he sent to NBC

4. The words al quaed and anti-terror and the reference to Osama on the tape. There are also more ambiguous references to ‘my brothers and sisters who have been oppressed’ (I am using a euphemism here for Cho’s actual words on the tape).

The context of the references though, tend to go against this. I just found this in a Mirror (UK) article:

He wrote: “Now that you have gone on a 9/11 on my life like (deleted) Osama. Now that you have (depleted) your own people like (deleted) Kim Jong-Il. Now that you have gone on a hummer safari on my life like (deleted) Bush? Are you happy now?”

And what about this:

“You loved crucifying me. Do you know what it feels like to be impaled on a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement. ”
As I said in another post, that sounds like a generalized rant to me. The right-wing blogs are convinced that Cho was a jihadi and the left-wing blogs that it was a psyop. The evidence could lend itself to both speculations. At this point, I still think it was a case of anti-social loner, the classic school shooter profile, according to many experts. One expert thinks the video shows that he wanted to win notoriety in popular culture – which of course, replaying the video on TV had done.

What I am certain about is that this will only further drive the federalization of data bases and the imposition of more stringent gun laws as well as other security-related changes.

I wrote extensively (a whole chapter on the Nick Berg beheading video as well as on other material) in the Abu Ghraib book about the use of video material in public propaganda and the difficulties of judging the accuracy of what is presented. You could be dealing with information, disinformation, deliberate hoaxes, genuine mistakes, red herrings…

Again, the political/historical context and the overall trend of public policy and laws are often better guides to deciphering the significance of material in the public realm.

V-Tech: Cho’s Guns – Doubts/Debate – updated 4/24

Update at bottom of post

This from CNN:

Flaherty, who is overseeing the investigative team looking at the shootings, said police also have been unable to answer one of the case’s most vexing questions: Why the spree began at the West Ambler Johnston dorm, and why 18-year-old freshman Emily Hilscher was the first victim.

Police have searched Hilscher’s e-mails and phone records looking for a link. While Flaherty would not discuss exactly what police found, he said neither Cho’s nor Hilscher’s records have revealed a connection.

Flaherty said there was also no link to 22-year-old senior Ryan Clark, who was also killed at the dorm. Nor do investigators know why Cho, an English major, selected Norris Hall — a building that is home primarily to engineering offices — to culminate his attack. Cho killed 30 people there before taking his own life.

Just heard the police conference this evening on Brit Hume on FOX atound 6:30PM – apparently Cho fired (more than) 170 rounds. They confirmed that his body was found in a classroom in Norris Hall.

My Comment:

Note, that at this point, Cho has also not yet been definitively linked to the first shooting (scroll down to my prior post on this), although they have stated that

i) One of the two guns was used in both shootings

ii) And that Cho’s fingerprints were found on both (the serial numbers had been filed off, although the receipt for one gun (?) was reportedly found in his back pocket….of his trousers? not sure..).

Remember that the two earlier bomb threats, that the police say they have not connected to this obviously disturbed young man (why I don’t know), were also directed against the engineering buildings. The police are saying that there is nothing in Cho’s writing/emails that specifically links him, motive-wise, to either the first shooting (there is ballistic evidence, although what I don’t know) OR the second, beyond the video confession or announcement of rage and revenge and the record of a very angry man whom many people thought was capable of harming others.

Then there is the matter of the third threatening note (8 pages long), which was found in his backpack in the hallway in Norris Hall near where the shootings took place OR in his dorm room (not clarified yet in reports), which was also directed against the engineering buildings. This note was also filled with rants against women and rich kids like the video. I have a theory about this, but I will hold off with it until I find enough to support it. Right now, it’s more in the nature of a vague suspicion.

I haven’t heard anything more about the bomb scare which led to the clearing of the engineering buildings on Wednesday, April 18. Has that third note been definitevely linked to the earlier two on April 3 and 13? Do the police now link Cho to the two earlier bomb threats because of this third note, or are they still holding off on that and why?
And was the other ( fourth?) bomb scare on Wednesday, after Cho’s death, a copy-cat? Who sent that? Have I got something wrong here?

A thought: Did he choose the engineering building because a lot more classes were held there that day?

Another thought: I still don’t know anything more about that report of arson in the Chicago Tribune which the same AP report from 4/17 that I quote here mentions. You’d think we’d have learned more by now from the university records, that is, if they are prepared to disclose them. This piece in Time which calls for Steger’s resignation, says the university is stone-walling.

OK….I understand that if the two young women didn’t press charges, the police could not give Cho a record, but what about arson? How do you commit arson and not have a record? This is a very vital isse to me, because I think some people are going to be try to deflect the debate more and more to gun control and increasing centralization.

But I see the failure as primarily (some more fine tuning needed obviously) that of the university and health care system (besides the security failure), which under current law could have protected the students. Here’s why:
1. The assessment of his mental condition is required to be by a Medical MD, according to the law, unless I misunderstood. First mistake, they had a PhD Psychologist evaluate him.

2. The evaluation was not even a day. If you look at the documents posted on Slate, they got the temporary detention order on Dec 13, 2005, they informed him of his rights on the 14th and they decided he was OK the same day. Barely a day. No other records of his confinement or evaluation or monitoring. All that goes against current law.

3. Even under current law, the university is not absolved by its own policy guidelines from protecting the community, which means they should have monitored him. They didn’t. That’s another failure to follow extant policy just there.

By taking the focus off the negligence of current laws, the debate is moved toward further centralization, as though that is the issue.

In any case, the issue of campus security will be equated with Homeland security through the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committe, which held a hearing on college campus security on 4/23. A House cmte is holding a similar hearing on 4/26.
What some are suggesting is that even the original detention order for insanity that was requested by a licensed social worker – even if reversed by an MD later on – might be enough to trigger a record in the federal database that would prevent you owning a gun. Hmmm…

I think there’s some potential for abuse just there.

And what if there was another Cho undetected, the tightening of gun laws wouldn’t help much if he decided to set fire to the campus, would it? I think not….

Update: Found this Sun (UK) piece which says that he fired

more than 175 shots in under 15 minutes; that he visited a firing range three times and practiced on a cardboard box 25 yards away. Heather Haugh (roommate of Emily Hilscher one of the two he first shot) also visited the Jefferson National Forest firing range. Emily’s boy friend – initially a suspect – was also a gun owner.

This from a blog in Australia which seems to echo the opinion of the Florida professor of criminology about handguns and how difficult it would be to kill that many people with them without a lot of skill:

“Statistically, massacres are a rarity in Australia, despite a large presence of handguns (both pistol and revolver) and the reason for this is that handguns are not accurate enough to be a chosen weapon for this type of crime. I know this first hand because I did weapons training when I was a security officer. Beyond 20 metres, handguns are more or less useless in the clutches of a madman shooting at moving targets. Accuracy with a handgun takes practice and skill.

To an extend, this is why massacres in Australia have been committed with rifles and shotguns. They have always been easier to procure and are far more accurate over distance.”

Oddities in Cho’s Psychiatric Confinement

Here is a Salon piece by Bonnie Goldstein with the relevant documents. I had posted it last night, with detailed commentary and then deleted it this morning – darn!

So – here goes again:

First, the Salon piece:

In December 2005, two undergraduate women at Virginia Tech complained about inappropriate messages they’d received from fellow student Cho Seung-Hui. A licensed social worker, Kathy Godbey, assessed Cho’s behavior and petitioned a Virginia magistrate for Cho’s “involuntary admission” to a mental-health facility (see below). The magistrate found “probable cause” to believe the young man was “mentally ill and in need of hospitalization” and issued a temporary detention order.

Cho was taken to the Carilion Saint Albans Behavioral Health facility in New River Valley, Va. Using the four-page involuntary admission form provided by Virginia’s Department of Mental Health, Mental Retardation and Substance Abuse Services, psychologist Roy Crouse observed that, although the patient’s affect was “flat” and his mood “depressed,” he “denie[d] suicidal ideations” (see Page 3). Crouse (a Ph.D., though not a physician as state law requires) wrote that Cho did not “acknowledge symptoms of a thought disorder.” Cho’s “insight and judgment [were] normal.” Also noted in the exam: Cho had no previous psychiatric care and was not on medication.

The patient exercised his right to counsel by court-appointed attorney Terry W. Teel (see Page 2), and his case was considered and decided by Special Justice and Guardian Ad Litem Paul M. Barnett. Justice Barnett found that although Cho presented “an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness,” there were suitable “alternatives to involuntary hospitalization” available. Cho was ordered instead to get outpatient treatments (see Page 5). No record has been found to confirm whether Cho, who killed 32 people and himself on April 16, ever sought or received the court-ordered treatment.

Also, in this regard, here is what we know about the possibility that he was taking drugs:

“Some news accounts have suggested that Cho had a history of antidepressant use, but senior federal officials tell ABC News that they can find no record of him in the governments files on controlled substances. This does not completely rule out prescription drug use, including samples from a physician, drugs obtained through illegal Internet sources, or a gap in computer databases, but the sources say theirs is a reasonably complete search. (NOTE: Some readers may have inferred from an earlier edition of this story that the federal government keeps a comprehensive record of all prescriptions. The Drug Enforcement Agency says it does track prescriptions of so-called controlled substances — including some mood-altering medications — but not all prescriptions made in the United States.)”

My Analysis:

1. It looks like Cho was never seen at any point in all this by a medical MD.

2. He was assessed by a licensed social worker, a magistrate, a special justice and guardian ad litem, and a PhD psychologist whose evaluation of his mental state ranged from finding him mentally ill and a threat to society and finding him largely normal and just depressed.

3. He clearly was not evaluated for any extended length of time – hardly a day at best.

4. No records were retained (perhaps not even kept) of his subsequent treatment.

5. No one followed up or monitored his treatment, or if they did, we have no records of it now.

6. No one informed the university or his parents. The argument is that privacy laws prevented the health system from doing so.
7. Cho went voluntarily to the police, and they referred him which posed a problem under Virginia law, since, as I said the Chris Wallace post, the form that Virginia courts use to notify the state police about a mental health disqualification only addresses the state criteria, which lists two potential categories that would warrant notification to the state police – someone who was “involuntarily committed” or ruled mentally “incapacitated,” neither of which ended up applying to Cho.

So, the problem was that Cho went “voluntarily” and wasn’t ruled incapacitated. From my earlier post:
“But didn’t anyone realize the potential danger here. OK. the two V-Tech students didn’t press stalking charges, but what happened to the arson charge? How does that not pose a threat to anyone else? Didn’t any of the teachers, like Nikki Giovanni, who found him so intimidating in class, want to find out where he was with his treatment?

Here’s a comment from one of the students (I think he was in Edward Falco’s class):

Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter. I was even thinking of scenarios of what I would do in case he did come in with a gun, I was that freaked out about him. When the students gave reviews of his play in class, we were very careful with our words in case he decided to snap. Even the professor didn’t pressure him to give closing comments.

After hearing about the mass shootings, I sent one of my friends a Facebook message asking him if he knew anything about Seung Cho and if he could have been involved. He replied: “dude that’s EXACTLY what I was thinking! No, I haven’t heard anything, but seriously, that was the first thing I thought when I heard he was Asian.”

While I “knew” Cho, I always wished there was something I could do for him, but I couldn’t think of anything. As far as notifying authorities, there isn’t (to my knowledge) any system set up that lets people say “Hey! This guy has some issues! Maybe you should look into this guy!” If there were, I definitely would have tried to get the kid some help. I think that could have had a good chance of averting yesterday’s tragedy more than anything.”

So, as I argued from the beginning, there is a clear case of negligence here, and indeed that is what experts are saying now:

“So here was a man who was actively intimidating other students and who had inappropriately and repeatedly photographed and contacted female students. His own suite mates say he was a stalker. That the university did not suspend Cho for such violations makes a solid case for negligence.

In a rational legal system, the school would be held accountable for its errors. But Virginia Tech is a state institution, and Virginia is a state where the doctrine of sovereign immunity remains quite robust. That doctrine, a relic of English common law, essentially says the state can do no wrong because the state creates the law and thus cannot be subject to it. Many states have relaxed sovereign immunity and made it possible for victims of, say, botched operations to sue state hospitals. But Krauss of George Mason University says the Virginia Tech victims’ families would probably have to seek an exception to sovereign immunity from the Supreme Court of Virginia in order to sue the school.

There’s a simpler way: Steger, the university president, should stop withholding documents on how the university mishandled Cho and take responsibility for his school’s lax approach. And then he should resign.”

Radical Libertarianism…

From a piece by Anthony Gregory called “Real World Politics and Radical Libertarianism on Lew Rockwell.

” In short, the problem was the principled abolitionists and other radicals were too few in number, and what existed throughout the 19th century was a confused political dynamic in which no major faction appeared to favor liberty above all. The Antebellum Democrats were great on trade but not so good on war and slavery. The Hamiltonians were cautious of some wars but bad on everything else. This continues to this day, when we have one party that speaks of economic freedom (but doesn’t come through) and another that speaks of personal choice but neither that embraces the full program and philosophy of freedom.

“The reason America is not as free as it should be is there hasn’t been enough principled libertarian thought in American history, and there’s where we come in. To the extent we do have freedom, it is because of the radicals of the past. To the extent we have oppression, socialism and imperialism, it is because of insufficient radicalism of the past, an attempt to mix the libertarian instincts of the American Revolution with the statist values of corporate conservatism, centralized statism, mixed economics, policed morality and continual foreign war.”

Well said. Read the article in its entirety. What I like is it’s optimistic, even upbeat, outlook and its hopefulness about where right libertarianism is and where it could go.
I share the optimism. I think, we – right (and left) libs – are not extremists (which is how we are derided) but principled.

Still, though we are not extremists, we are at the extreme ends of the debate….

Unless your thinking is completely linear, however, the principled right and left do not have to be at the opposite ends of things.

Did Cho Seung-Hui Have the “Herostratos Syndrome”?

 

4-23-07

An article from the History News Network that supports my previous post about the Copy-Cat Effect:

By William Marina

Mr. Marina is Professor Emeritus in History at Florida Atlantic University.

I doubt that many people have ever heard of Herostratos, a Greek who lived almost 2,400 hundred years ago, but I would suggest that the similarities of Cho’s murderous rampage at Virginia Tech and Herostratos’ actions are striking. They both represent a kind of revolt against Egalitarianism, a craving to be lifted above the faceless and nameless masses, to make one’s mark on history even at the price of becoming infamous in the process.

In 356 BCE, Herostratos burned down the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, considered one of the Wonders of the Ancient World. When asked, before his execution, why he had done such a dastardly deed, Herostratos replied that he wanted to be “famous.” Alarmed at such thinking, the Greeks attempted to blot his name from history. After Alexander the Great’s fame, it was pointed out that the Gods had caused his birth that same year to overshadow Herostartos’ act.

The Greeks were unsuccessful in their effort to purge history of Herostratos, but at least they understood his motivation—a desire for fame at any cost. This has been the prime motivation for many perverse acts in human history, especially in America.

This writer first discussed these factors some years ago in an essay, Egalitarianism and Empire, Actually, two other factors need to be included, Envy, and Equality. Alexis de Tocqueville believed that Envy was the motivating engine of what he called Democracy in America, but it is important to differentiate between Equality and Egalitarianism. The former implies an opportunity to compete, the latter a leveling distribution of results.

In the fourth century, the emerging Alexanderian Empire was an early sign of the rising tensions within Classical Civilization, which would culminate in the warfare-welfare state of the Roman Empire, to which America is increasingly compared. For men like Herostratos, God was, indeed, dead, and they had no real fear of divine retribution for their actions. Neither did Cho!

The growing sense of Egalitarianism was already evident in Jacksonian Democracy and was heightened by the Centralization prevalent after the Civil War.

In fact, the most cogent analysis of what I call the Herostratos Syndrome was offered in a New York Evening Post editorial after the assassination of President James A. Garfield in 1881, quoted at length in Alexander Stephens’s Pictorial History of the United States (1881). Stephens had served as Vice President of the Confederacy, and also wrote a two-volume history of that conflict, focused around the ideas of “Centralization,” and Empire. In that view, he would later be joined by Oswald Spengler, who wrote about “Civilization [Empire] as Centralization unadulterated,” and Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton’s teacher at Georgetown, who voiced a similar outlook.

The editorialist wanted to explain what, in picturesque 19th century prose, he called, the rise of the American “Crank,” which seemed so peculiar to our society. He attributed this to a system of business that promised that everyone could succeed, as well as to a schooling system that promised the same. But the real culprit was the press, which offered instant notoriety and infamy to these Cranks, such as Charles Guiteau, the assassin of Garfield.

Since then, of course, we have endured a number of such “Cranks,” including Lee Harvey Oswald, whose “Historic Diary” repeats his failures, or Arthur Bremer, the inept attempted assassin of George Wallace, whose diary also repeats the same word, “failure,” ad nauseum. Oswald’s whole life was an effort to draw attention to himself, as a so-called Marxist, shooting himself in the leg while in the Marines, and so on. It is clear his “Historic (by whose definition?) Diary,” was written on the boat returning to America from the Soviet Union, in anticipation of a large press conference which never materialized, as he was met by a sole representative of the State Department, which had helped pay for his return. The number of his actions intended to gain fame are too numerous to describe here. He even tried to become a critic of Communism from the Right!

In all of these Herostratics, however, perhaps the epitome is James Earl Ray, the assassin of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Before Ray grasped what Oswald had instinctively understood in pleading his innocence after his capture in Dallas and before he was himself killed, Ray was asked by his attorney how he could have been so “damned dumb” as to leave a portable radio with his Missouri Prison number etched on it at the scene of the crime. Ray replied that he wanted the whole world to know he was the one who shot that “F***ing N****r.”

It is a terrible tribute to Ray’s skillful mendacity that before his death he was able to convince Mrs. Coretta King, King’s son, and Jesse Jackson, that he was the innocent victim of some larger, nefarious conspiracy. Instead of executing him, as the Greeks would have done, he remained in prison, expanding upon his fame and notoriety by proclaiming his innocence. And, there was no shortage among those in the media as well, adding to that chorus.

With attempts on the lives of both Presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan, the increased security has made it easier simply to kill masses of innocent people, whether earlier from a Tower at the University of Texas, or, for example, the murders at Columbine.

Now Cho has successfully joined the ranks of the Herostratics and made his name in history. Our media, unlike the flawed effort of the Greeks to wipe such names from history, has seen to that. Cho’s act of putting together a video presentation beforehand, attempting to justify his act as a protest against inequality, and then mailing that to NBC, is hardly the act of an irrational person under immediate stress. He knew exactly what he wished to accomplish and had planned accordingly.

There is also the question of what prescription drugs Cho had been taking. The police have not yet released the names of these drugs. We do know, however, that various drugs have been associated with some of the mass killings of recent years.

In Ancient Greece one of the “designer drugs” was hellebore. We will never know if Herostratos was into such drugs, which, when combined with alcohol, could give one quite a high. For a “nobody,” whose efforts to stand out had simply alienated many around him, that could be the final catalyst in tipping him toward an act of destruction or violence that would achieve the notoriety he so craved.

It is perhaps well to note the closing words of the editorialist in 1881, that our method of handling such events may have simply increased the possibility for more such Cranks.

My Comment:

I should add that I don’t know anything about the killing of King or Kennedy or anyone else and have no opinion on any of those subjects, one way or other. I just thought the analysis of centralization and the media was relevant.

I should also point out that Stephens – whose writings I am not familiar with – was an ardent supporter of slavery. In my view, that does not necessarily have a bearing on his critique of empire, any more than his owning of slaves affected his ability as a lawyer to get a black slave woman accused of murder acquitted.

I have Jewish friends who are able to listen to Wagner with equanimity…as I can read Kipling and accept that he was both a marvellous writer and an ardent colonialist and imperialist (those two things might indeed be tied together in some ways), but that to denounce (or ignore) all the good and the creative in people because some parts of their thinking is reprehensible (or indeed, in the case of slavery, almost incomprehensible to us) is I think, a shallow way of thinking that in the end impoverishes the debate and ultimately leads, as Mill noted, to the very evils we think we are battling. Our salvation lies in widening, not narrowing, the debate.