Tragedy and Irony After V-Tech – Steger versus Winsett

“You are hereby directed not to enter the College campus or any College owned property at any time for any reason”

reads a one- page letter sent through courier by administrators no more than a day after an upsetting classroom incident had come to their attention.

If you thought that was V-Tech officials getting the perp of reportedly the biggest campus massacres in the US out of the classroom, you thought wrong.

Probably nothing says more about the priorities of the political culture nowadays than the reported firing last week of Nicholas Winsett, a teacher at Boston’s Emmanuel College.

On Wednesday, two days after the Virginia massacre, Winsett enacted a little skit in his classroom to illustrate his argument that the massacre could have been prevented had the university policy allowed guns on campus

During the skit, Winsett used a marker to pretend to shoot at a student who had previously been prepped to simulate firing back. He was illustrating his point that had there been guns on campus, the V-Tech shooting might have been averted. That, of course, is debatable.

But, of course, debating things is precisely what professors do.

He seems to have made some thoughtful points:

He asked students what the impact of this tragedy on the stock market was (nil) to show that a sensational tragedy does not equate to something that has a deep social impact.

He also argued that the incidence of such killings is miniscule. You are more likely to be shot in a convenience store or struck by lightning than killed in a mass shooting.

His interpretation is open to question, of course. For one thing, I think he overlooks the importance of the twin issues of psychiatric drug use and the increase in police-state laws. But I doubt he is much off the mark on the statistics.

Here is a video he made for YouTube.

Emmanuel College claims he was making light of the tragedy at Virginia Tech. He is said to have made derogatory references to “rich, white kids.” The college is within its rights to maintain its standards – which may well have been violated by what he said. I don’t claim to know. But notice that they were quick to act without too much investigation.

Meanwhile, the President of V-Tech has yet to step down for the university’s role in witlessly enabling school shooter, Cho Seung Hui. Indeed, if we are to believe Steger, officials did all that could humanly have been done.

But this Time Magazine article calls him on that. V-Tech’s own guidelines contradict him (see my prior posts on this blog on the police response and the legal and psychiatric issues).

A glance at Dr. Steger’s professional record shows it to be an impressive one, which makes this turn in his career all the more tragic.

But this paragraph in his CV struck me as not tragic but ironic:

“Most recently, he has been asked by the Swiss Ambassador to the United States and The World Bank to serve on a committee to establish a foundation in the United States to conduct research on mitigating global natural disasters.”

Indeed.

Still, even if he resigned from V-Tech, Steger’s path is unlikely to be downward.

Right now, that’s not the case with Nicholas Winsett.

More on V-Tech response and crime-scene details

This from an upcoming Newsweek report (4/30) posted online gives some insight into how the university administration operates:

“Virginia Tech’s president, Charles Steger, had been through campus emergencies before. Early last fall, a prison convict had escaped near the university’s sprawling, 2,600-acre campus in rural Virginia, and gunned down a hospital guard and a sheriff’s deputy. Steger had ordered some students to evacuate their classroom building. But as he discussed what to do this time around with other top university officials, he recalled having some second thoughts about that earlier decision. What if an evacuation meant sending the students right into the cross hairs of the shooter? Maybe it was better to keep them where they were and not arouse panic.

(LR: I will go back and find Steger’s earlier excuse about why he did not shut down the campus – which was that it was too large, almost like a town. He didn’t say anything about sending people running into the shooter earlier.

No explanation why the PA system was not used either or a radio announcement made.)

As Steger and his lieutenants debated in the University Board Room in Burress Hall at around 9:45 a.m., a police report came in: there had been another shooting. Steger thought he heard something that sounded like gunshots. He looked up, he recalled to NEWSWEEK. He wondered if the noise was coming from a nearby construction site. Then he noticed police running toward Norris Hall. Steger ordered security to lock the doors to the president’s office. “I thought it could be a target,” he says.

LR: Yes – they had time to do that. No comment needed I think. Steger refused to step down despite requests.
Here’s more. As you can see, they don’t mention anything about student being sent into the arms of the shooter:

“Steger emphasized that the university closed off the dorm after the first attack and decided to rely on e-mail and other electronic means to notify members of the university, but with 11,000 people driving onto campus first thing in the morning, it was difficult to get the word out. He said that before the e-mail went out, the university began telephoning resident advisers in the dorms to notify them and sent people to knock on doors to spread the word. ”

Let’ see that the students thought of that:

Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time. “What happened today, this was ridiculous,” student Jason Piatt told CNN. “While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed.”

Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting.

The e-mail had few details. It read: “A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating.” The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.

Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time.

Everett Good, junior, said of the lack of warning: “I’m trying to figure that out. Someone’s head is definitely going to roll over that.”

“We were kept in the dark a lot about exactly what was going on,” said Andrew Capers Thompson, a 22-year-old graduate student from Walhalla, S.C.

Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time. “What happened today, this was ridiculous,” student Jason Piatt told CNN. “While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed.”

Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting.

The e-mail had few details. It read: “A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating.” The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.

Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time.

Everett Good, junior, said of the lack of warning: “I’m trying to figure that out. Someone’s head is definitely going to roll over that.”

“We were kept in the dark a lot about exactly what was going on,” said Andrew Capers Thompson, a 22-year-old graduate student from Walhalla, S.C.

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And then some details I missed about the crime scene:

The gunman found dead yesterday by authorities from apparently self-inflicted wounds had been described to MSNBC by an injured student as a college-aged Asian with a maroon hat and black leather jacket.

Authorities found a cellphone at the scene that initially led them to believe the killer was a Virginia Tech student from China.

VTech Response Did Not Conform Even to Recent VTech Guidelines

TheOnlineBarAssociation:

 

There was a time gap of almost two hours between the first two murders at West Ambler-Johnston and the 30 deaths at Norris Hall in Virginia Tech. In the two hour gap, Cho Seung-Hui gathered a 23-page manifesto, 27 videos, and photos; sent the package to NBC as a press release; and then
returned to Virginia Tech to finish his heinous agenda.

 

During that two hour break, authorities never thought of alerting students about the two on-campus homicides. They assumed that there was no further threat to other students. When asked about their failure to take precautionary measures, authorities answered that random acts of violence cannot be prevented. They also noted that it’s hard to warn 26,000 students at the same time.

 

Their explanation is unacceptable. As pointed out by concerned organizations, if a simple text messaging system had been in place, and a message had been sent from the authorities, preventive measures could have been taken. At the very least, classes could have been conducted inside closed doors. If precautionary measures were taken, many of those slaughtered students would still be attending class today.

 

Institutions of higher education have their own policies for handling mentally ill or suicidal students. Recently, the state of Virginia felt compelled to change the law. The Act, H 3064 of Virginia, approved by the Governor on March 21, 2007, reads:

 

“The governing boards of each public institution of higher education shall develop and implement policies that advise students, faculty, and staff, including residence hall staff, of the proper procedures for identifying and addressing the needs of students exhibiting suicidal tendencies or behavior. The policies shall ensure that no student is penalized or expelled solely for attempting to commit suicide or seeking mental health treatment for suicidal thoughts or behaviors. Nothing in this section shall preclude any public institution of higher education from establishing policies and procedures for appropriately dealing with students who are a danger to themselves, or to others, and whose behavior is disruptive to the academic community.”

 

A temporary detention order of the court, like that obtained for Cho in 2005, means that under Virginia law, the magistrate found Cho to be both “mentally ill and in need of hospitalization or treatment.” It also found Cho to be “an imminent danger to himself or others, or is so seriously mentally ill as to be substantially unable to care for himself.”

 

The fact that Nikki Giovanni had Cho removed from her class shows that Cho was disruptive to the academic community.

 

H 3064 clearly stated that it did not preclude those governing the institution from establishing policies and procedures for appropriately dealing with students who are a danger to themselves or to others, and whose behavior is disruptive to the academic community.

The Spirit of VTech Students

A stone that was meant to represent Cho at a memorial at VTech disappeared and was replaced with this:

“Left behind on Monday in Cho’s position at the memorial were a pile of wilting roses and carnations, burnt-down candles and days-old letters forgiving Cho and expressing sympathy with his family.

“Seung Hui, I hope that if I ever meet someone like you, I will have the courage and strength to reach out,” said one signed David.

‘You have not broken our spirits’

“We forgive you because we’ve been forgiven,” offered a Christian who signed only MEQ.

“To the family of Cho Seung-Hui: We know that you are hurting too,” said another.

But one letter to Cho, whose angry, hateful and violent pictures and statements that were shown on television after the massacre, was more defiant.

“Cho: you greatly underestimated our strength, courage and compassion. You may have broken our hearts but you have not broken our spirits,” wrote a person who signed “Erin T”.

VTech – Questions about damage inflicted by handguns

This interview , apparently with a Florida U. criminologist, is on You Tube and is posted on numerous websites and blogs:

“Charles Mesloh, Professor of Criminology at Florida Gulf Coast University, told NBC 2 News that he was shocked Cho could have killed 32 people with two handguns absent expert training. Mesloh immediately assumed that Cho must have used a shotgun or an assault rifle.”

I don’t know enough myself to assess this statement. Needs more research.

But here is more from another Time article which suggests the same:”Cho’s extraordinary killing effectiveness suggests someone who was trained, or who trained himself, in “execution-style” killing, according to the federal source”

There is a picture circulating on Liberty Forum (and also on other sites and blogs) of what is said to be Cho in a US marine uniform. The picture was apparently uploaded to wiki and then pulled. There is some debate about that.

Looking at it myself, I have no idea whether one of those young men portrayed in it is Cho. It could be, but I am declining to post it, as I have no way of knowing whether it is accurate, a mistake, or a hoax.

In any case, VTech, like many campuses around the country, probably had recruiters onsite. Cho’s sister worked in Iraq construction and he was – from what we have heard so far – an intelligent enough person.

The picture is fuelling the military psyop argument right now.

I will be on the look out for confirmation of this from other sources.

Meanwhile, explaining it a different way, John Markell, the owner of the gunshop which sold the Glock (but not the Walther) to Cho, argues that Cho probably purchased several magazines:

“The Glock 19 is sold with two magazines, each capable of holding 15 rounds, double-stacked to make a compact clip not much bigger than a harmonica. Judging by the number of fatalities and wounded — most of whom reportedly were shot more than once — Cho may have fired a hundred or more rounds. Loading magazines is a slow business, so Markell figures that Cho must have acquired several more magazines and more ammunition from some other source.”

The Glock was also easy to conceal, being very small, which explains how he got away with it:

“As it turned out, the Glock 19 was perfect for Cho’s deadly purpose. The gun is just 6.85 inches long and 5 inches wide, according to a Glock website, and thus easily concealed. A vest with several pockets can hold a number of compact 15-round magazines that fit a Glock 19. Cho surely knew that in cold weather a mass murderer could carry an arsenal on his back and in his pockets, and there would be no way to detect him, short of metal detectors at every entrance to every classroom building and dorm.”

VTech – Psychiatric Drugs in Past School Shootings

Here is a partial list of recent school shootings caused by or linked to the use of psychiatric drugs:

“In eight recent school shootings, psychiatric drugs were the common factor, in other instances, the shooter’s medical records were never made public and their psychiatric drug use remains in question.

September 28, 2006: Bailey, Colorado: Duane Morrison, 53, entered Platte Canyon High School and shot and killed one girl, and sexually assaulted 6 others. Antidepressants were found in his vehicle.

March 21, 2005: Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minnesota: 16-year-old Native American Jeff Weise was under the influence of the antidepressant Prozac when he shot and killed nine people and wounding five before committing suicide.

April 10, 2001: Wahluke, Washington: 16-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school, and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage while on a high dose of the antidepressant Effexor.

March 22, 2001: El Cajon, California: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman was on two antidepressants, Effexor and Celexa, when he opened fire at his California high school wounding five.

March 7, 2000: Williamsport, Pennsylvania: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was on the antidepressant Prozac when she blasted away at fellow students in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, wounding one.

May 20, 1999: Conyers, Georgia: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with a mix of antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded 6 of his classmates.

April 20, 1999: Columbine, Colorado: 18-year-old Eric Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox when he and his partner Dylan Klebold killed 12 classmates and a teacher and wounded 23 others before taking their own lives in the bloodiest school massacre to date. The coroner confirmed that the antidepressant was in his system through toxicology reports while Dylan Klebold’s autopsy was never made public.

April 16, 1999: Notus, Idaho: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school narrowly missing students; he was taking a mix of antidepressants.

May 21, 1998: Springfield, Oregon: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his own parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been on Prozac.”

Here is the link to the report, “Psychiatric Drugs And Anger Management Curricula – A Perspective on School Violence,” by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights. (I should point out something I didn’t realize at the time I posted, which is that the CCHR is connected to Scientology. I think the statistics are fairly reliable though. I will add another link to back this material from another source.

The report notes the following interesting statistics about the rise of school shooting.
1991-1996: FDA approval of selected SSI drugs (a class of antidepressants including Prozac and Zoloft) for adult use only.

1990-2005: 38% increase in pediatric use of stimulants that FDA claims cause psychosis, mania, aggression and (on withdrawal) suicidal ideation

1987-2002: 50o% under-18 use of anti-depressants

1974-2000 (1.4 school shootings a year, on average)

1988-2006 (2.5 school shootings a year, on average).

The rise in school shootings has been the rationale for the introduction of Immediate Action Rapid Deployment tactics into the police, especially after the 1999 Columbine shootings).

In turn, that coincides with the increasing militarization of the police in response to terror threats, most noticeably, of course, after 9/11.

The CCHR report above is especially persuasive when it argues that so-called anger-management and counseling approaches are fairly useless, distract from real problems and are mosly nothing more than an excuse for school administrators to claim that they are doing everything they can.

Indeed, at V-Tech we now have cries for further laws, policies and programs, even though it’s pretty clear that the laws and programs already in place have either not been implemented at all or have been implemented so poorly and without common sense that we might as well not have had them.

A plethora of laws also lets everone follow the rules (trivially) without paying attention to what those rules are supposed to foster.

In this case university administration, the mental health system and the police all, in effect, operated on their own, claiming to be responsible “thus far and no further,” and ultimately leaving absolutely no one responsible for seeing the whole process through, treating Cho, or – most importantly – protecting the students he lived with.

A legal and bureaucratic apparatus, in other words, can just as well let everyone off the hook as hold people accountable.

Actually, it seems that Virginia state has been zealous enough, turning in some 80,000 names of people who shouldn’t own guns to the FBI – it’s just that Cho’s was not on them. Why? Because Viriginia law denies guns to the “mentally defective” and those committed to a psychiatric institution – neither of which describes Cho.

So, the problem wasn’t any lack of laws. It was the lack of a common sense application of the law – charges not being pressed, records not being kept, lack of communication between various departments. There’s not much question to my mind that human error or negligence caused this disaster.

http://www.nbc4.com/news/12716444/detail.html

A further thought: even if drugs don’t show up in the blood, this report suggests that withdrawal from drugs could cause similar aggressive moods.

Another thought: in a manic mood, people do a number of things that would be implausible in a normal person. I am noting this since some bloggers are suggesting that the scenario of Cho killing 2 people, walking a couple of miles, and then killing 30 others all in about 2-21/2 hours is improbable.

Live Journal has a comment on the “More Gun Laws or Fewer Idiots,” piece, on which I have some dissenting thoughts, related to the drug issue:

” I think the gendered violence angle has so far been under-explored. This man was a documented stalker, and, at least at first, only targeted women. The perpetrators of all spree school shootings I’m aware of have been angry young men, more often than not targeting young women. In my opinion, the popular press chronically ignores this truism in favor of low-hanging culture targets. Male aggression and male socialization is probably the real issue here.”

I will comment on this later. It’s too far afield for me right now.

Cho shot in temple, not yet definitively linked to first shooting

“Dr. William Massello, the assistant state medical examiner based in Roanoke, said Sunday that Cho died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his temple after firing enough shots to wound his 32 victims more than 100 times.

But there was nothing unusual about Cho’s autopsy, he said, and nothing that would have hinted at any psychological problems.”

Also:

Also Sunday, state police said investigators have still been unable to definitively tie Cho to the dormitory where the first two victims were found. One of Cho’s guns was linked to the first shooting, but authorities have no other evidence that ties him to that crime scene.

Keep and Bear Arms – VT Shooting & Guns on Campus

Some comments from Keep and Bear Arms on my article, “More Guns Laws or Fewer Idiots”.
I am posting them, because I want to comment on my implied support for gun-free zones on campus:

QUOTE:

“Taking a momentary aside from the point;- I’ve yet to know any person having undergone the extensive formalities involved with securing for themselves a State-required permit for lawful carry of a concealed weapon as ‘packing heat’. In stark contrast, what is realized by persons who are permitted and other Moral and Conscionable persons, permit required or not–but having assumed their Duty as an American Citizen to provide themselves with Arms for their own Defense is the solemn and additional weight of responsibility for protection of other persons. Forgive my uneducated instinct, but a measure of transparency is indicated within the wording used by an ex-English teacher Lila Rajiva, suggestive that she herself does not ’pack heat’.


Comment by: Slowburn 2 (4/19/2007)
The Crucial Understanding.At the risk of insulting the intelligence of Lila Rajiva, my impression is such and open to any necessary correction; that specific decisions were in fact made by at least two ‘authorities’, Faculty and State legislators–the former prohibiting the carrying of a personal defense weapon even by ‘qualified’ individuals under the penalty of expulsion, and the latter failing to Secure the “Right” of individuals to carry a firearm for defensive purposes on campus. Regardless of their intent–such persons have in fact committed Immoral Offenses.
(Cont’d)



Comment by: Slowburn 3 (4/19/2007)
For certain ‘authorities’ to intentionally and knowingly establish laws, prohibitions or penalties depriving only those who would abide by such laws and prohibitions from possessing an implement which another person could readily use against them in a “Rights”-Violating Act is Immoral.
This primary and most fundamental principle is
EXACTLY WHAT MUST BE UNDERSTOOD or NOTHING HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD AT ALL.

My Comment:

My position on the bearing of arms on campus has not been extensively thought out, and I admit that I did not know that on many campuses (including that of George Washington University – see the posts on legal issues raised on Chris Wallace’s show), security personnel do not (or can not) carry weapons. That – to me – is amazing, considering the very open nature of many campuses.

I don’t actually object to guns on campuses (which are often sprawling, dangerous places), but then, what happens in a classroom? Are we going to have metal detectors and frisking before each class, or is the teacher supposed to be able to deliver herself of a lecture on Rousseau and a few rounds from a firearm with equal aplomb should she become the target of, say, a student irate about his grades?

That goes a shade beyond the traditional requirement of faculty to maintain discipline, it seems to me….

In a confined space, as in a lab or a classroom or a plane, the same rules should not obtain – since people are not equally able to protect themselves or move out of danger. At least, that’s my intuitive thought on this.
There ought to be an argument here that by-passes the “rights” language altogether, thereby leaving the second amendment substantively uninfringed.

I need to think about this a lot more, though, before I feel I can stake out a position one way or other. In any case, I admit the use of the phrase “packing heat” was intended to load an argument I made on intuitive grounds that the classroom situation is analytically different.

One way to go is suggested by Alexander Cockburn in a recent Counterpunch article:

“A better idea would be for appropriately screened teachers and maybe student monitors to carry weapons. A quarter of a century ago students doing military ROTC training regularly carried rifles around campus. US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia recently recalled regularly traveling on the New York subway system as a student with his rife. Perhaps there should be guns in wall cases, behind glass, at strategic points around campuses, like those fire axes, usually with menacing signs about improper use.”

Get rid of psychiatric drugs, not guns he said. And then bring in the posse.

About time, probably.

VTech-Campus Police Chief led Morva Hunt

Flinchum, the campus police chief was the guy who led the hunt for William Morva, the escaped survivalist who killed security personnel. He became head of the campus police, in December 2005. Said to be very conscientious and unflappable, according to this report:


“Virginia Tech’s administration gave Flinchum the chief’s job in December after a nationwide search that produced 90 candidates. As chief, he is responsible for an 85-member department and the security on the 2,600-acre main campus and more than 26,000 students.

The department earned its third national accreditation and is one of only 35 university police departments nationally with that distinction.

Before his selection, Flinchum had served as Tech’s interim police chief since July 1. He led the Tech department’s response in August when a Montgomery County prisoner escaped from custody at a local hospital. County police said the prisoner killed a security guard during the escape attempt and then a county deputy sheriff on a hiking trail near the university campus.”

Odd – so this is supposed to be a cracker-jack team with a very competent chief. Not to be rude, but what do the lazy ones look like? A scary thought.

I do understand that hindsight can distort perception and make something that was very ambiguous at the time look like a dead cert. in retrospect, but I seriously doubt whether an objective person would look at this and not see massive failure.

Cho’s Reading Material, Email Accounts

This is a PDF file of the contents found from the search of Cho’s room.

I missed this early morning report from AP on Forbes.com in which ebay denies that Cho bought a gun through it (I think eBay is referring to an earlier report saying he ordered the gun through the internet and then picked it up later from a pawnshop, a report I have cited in earlier posts. I will check if that’s the one that is now being refuted, and if so, will correct it).

“During the past 24 hours some news outlets have erroneously reported that Mr. Seung-Hui Cho may have purchased on eBay (nasdaq: EBAY news people ) ammunition used in his crimes. To be perfectly clear, guns and ammunition are not permitted on eBay. Mr. Cho did not purchase guns or ammunition on our site,” the company said in a statement.

eBay said Cho did purchase empty ammunition clips and a gun holster from the site, noting that the unregulated items can be legally purchased and sold on the site and in retail stores in the United States.

This from AP. Not only did Cho purchase empty ammo clips from a vendor in Idaho through eBay, he also

Quote:
“used the eBay account to sell items ranging from Hokies football tickets to horror-themed books, some of which [3] were assigned in one of his classes.

A search warrant affidavit filed Friday stated that investigators wanted to search Cho’s e-mail accounts, including the address Blazers5505@hotmail.com. Durzy confirmed Cho used the same blazers5505 handle on eBay.

Virginia State Police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said investigators are “aware of the eBay activity that mirrors” the Hotmail account.

One question investigators hope to answer is whether Cho had any e-mail contact with Emily Hilscher, one of the first two victims. Investigators plan to search her Virginia Tech e-mail account.

Experts say that when the subject of an investigation is a loner like Cho, his computers and cell phone can be a rich source of information. Authorities say Cho had a history of sending menacing text messages and other communications — written and electronic.

On March 22, Cho bought at least two 10-round magazines for the Walther P22. A day later, he made a purchase from a vendor named “oneclickshooting,” which sells gun accessories and other items. It appears that he bought three Walther P22 clips in that purchase, but the seller could not be reached for comment.

Cho sold tickets to Virginia Tech sporting events, including last year’s Peach Bowl. He sold a Texas Instruments graphics calculator that contained several games, most of them with mild themes.

“The calculator was used for less than one semester then I dropped the class,” Cho wrote on the site.

He also sold many books about violence, death and mayhem. Several of those books were used in his English classes, meaning Cho simply could have been selling used books at the end of the semester.His eBay rating was superb — 98.5 percent. That means he received one negative rating from people he dealt with on eBay, compared with 65 positive.

“great ebayer. very flexible,” the buyer said of his Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl tickets, which went for $182.50.

Andy Koch, Cho’s roommate from 2005-06, said he never saw Cho receive or send a package, although he didn’t have much interaction with the shooter. Students can sign up for a free lottery on a game-by-game basis, and the tickets are free.

“We took him to one football game,” he said. “We told him to sign up for the lottery, and he went and he left like in the third quarter, and that was it. He never went again. He never went to another game.”

Cho sold the books on the eBay-affiliated site half.com. They include “Men, Women, and Chainsaws” by Carol J. Clover, a book that explores gender in the modern horror film. Others include “The Best of H.P. Lovecraft: Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre”; and “The Female of the Species: Tales of Mystery and Suspense” by Joyce Carol Oates — a book in which the publisher writes: “In these and other gripping and disturbing tales, women are confronted by the evil around them and surprised by the evil they find within themselves.”

Books by those three authors were taught in his Contemporary Horror class.”

End of Quote

My Comment:

The Lovecroft and Oates are pretty standard fare. I don’t know the other book. I fed myself a steady diet of horror stories, including Poe, Sheridan Le Fanu and Stevenson, in my teens. But I expect there will be some ranting about what is taught in English departments.

It will be interesting to see what people can find on eBay with Cho’s handle on it.

CHO ON EBAY

This is what’s on eBay:

blazers5505

(64Feedback is 50 to 99)

Feedback Score: 64
Positive Feedback: 98.5%
Member since Jan-19-04 in United States

Shipping methods: Media Mail/Ground | Ships from: Blacksburg, VA

And this:

Half.com Item
Item #: 340169354660
Item Category: Books
Price: $5.25
Buyer: ravenwolfie
Seller: blazers5505

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:pLzHLl4kNnUJ:cart.half.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FAnonymousTransactionDetail%26transidentity%3D340169354660:327589492+blazers5505&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a

This is Cho on a page rating another eBay buyer imabiddy22

 

Good buyer

 

Seller
blazers5505(64Feedback score is 50 to 99)

  Jan-16-07   200043065708  

This page also contains a seller, jellyfromctown. Jelly was a name that Cho is supposed to have mentioned at one time- an imaginary girl-friend.

 

Seller
jellyfromc-town(369Feedback score is 100 to 499)

  Nov-20-06

http://myworld.ebay.com/imabiddy22/

Here he is rating newyorkjetsfan4lif, also on eBay MyWorld:

 

Good

 

Buyer
blazers5505(64Feedback score is 50 to 99)

  Oct-21-06  

Here he is selling Microfiction on Half.com on eBay:

rice Seller
(Feedback)
Comments Shipping Ships From

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:U2V2twR3nWcJ:product.half.ebay.com/Micro-Fiction_W0QQprZ155305QQtgZinfo+blazers5505&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=fi

refox-a

And here he is selling the Oates book on Half.com on eBay again:

Price Seller
(Feedback)
Comments Shipping Ships From

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:tzSuu1cWTPIJ:product.half.ebay.com/The-Female-Of-The-Species_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ45574750+blazers5505&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a

This is a page with several books. Not having sold on eBay, I would like clarification if these are all books he had for sale, as it looks to be. Clicking on the pages, finds most are not available. Will go through them again.

blazers5505

(59Feedback is 50 to 99)

Feedback Score: 59
Positive Feedback: 98.4%
Member since Jan-19-04 in United States

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 Best of H.P. Lovecraft: H. P. Lovecraft
(Paperback, Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre, 1982)

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 The Female Of The Species: Joyce Carol Oates
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 Men, Women, and Chainsaws: Carol J. Clover
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 A Guide to the Norton Reader, Tenth Edition: John C. Brereton, Linda H. Peterson
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 Feeding the Ghosts: Fred D’Aguiar
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 Sabbath Night In The Church Of The Piranha: Edward Falco
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 Exploring Poetry: Frank Madden
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And here is a report with a second email account – SC2@vt.edu, which was his school account.

Other Information on Cho’s Records:
1.Blazers5505@hotmail.com was the account used to purchase the gun and was used last in February, according to a police affidavit.

2. Emily Hilscher, one of Cho’s first victims (7:15 am 4/16 in West Ambler Johnston Hall) had the following e-mail address, epixie@vt.edu. Police are investigating whether she had a connection with him.

3. The affidavit states that Cho made regular calls home on Sunday evenings. The police are checking the records for any announcement of his actions on Monday.

(Note from LR – I have moved the autopsy findings to my post on More Oddities. Sorry, some of this material needs to be reorganized on the posts).